I came across another tragic story. I just had document it. Charles Walter Crum is very distantly related to me as my 3rd cousin 2 times removed. Our common ancestor is Nathan Marmaduke Lamb and Orpha Rollins.

Nathan Marmaduke Lamb (DOB 1/1/1791 in Randolph County, NC; DOD Abt 1856 in Greene County, TN) married Orpha Rollins (DOB Abt 1793 in Randolph County, NC; DOD After 1860 in Greene County, TN). They had my direct ancestor, John Rollins Lamb and, his sister, Charlotte Elizabeth Lamb. Charles Walter Crum is descended from Charlotte Elizabeth Lamb.

Charlotte Elizabeth Lamb (DOB 4/18/1824 in Greeneville, Greene County, TN; DOD 4/19/1881 in Greeneville, Greene County, TN) married Elijah John Ricker (DOB 11/18/1829 in Greeneville, Greene County, TN; DOD 11/20/1876 in Limestone Springs, Greene County, TN). They had Frederick Knighton Ricker, Charlotte Caroline Ricker, John L. Ricker, Uriah M. Ricker, Salina Malinda Jane Ricker, Eliza Elvira Emaline Ricker, Sarah Frances Ricker, Hamilton Ricker.

Frederick Knighton Ricker (DOB 5/11/1854 in Greene County, TN; DOD 10/16/1911 in Greene County, TN) married Mary S. Mickels (DOB 11/26/1848 in Greene County, TN; DOD 2/5/1922 in Greene County, TN). They had Jonathon B.M. Ricker, Elijah Milton Ricker, Maggie Ricker, Robert Taylor Ricker, Frederick N. Ricker, John Henry Ricker, Jennie Ricker, James Mort Ricker.

Jennie Ricker (DOB 3/27/1888 in TN; DOD 11/26/1970 in Orange County, NC) married William Walter Crum (DOB 10/28/1891 in TN; DOD 2/1/1953 in Knoxville, Knox County, TN). They had one son, Charles Walter Crum, the subject of this story.

Charles Walter Crum was born 7/26/1920 in Greene County, TN.


1930 U.S. Census of Newport Road, District 10, Greene, Tennessee; Ancestry.com, Roll: 2249; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0025; Image: 624.0; FHL microfilm: 2341983, Taken 4/2/1930, Lines 32-34, "Walter W. Crum"
Walter W. Crum, Head, Owns farm, M(ale), W(hite), 38 yrs old (DOB 1892), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1911), Can read and write, Born in TN, Both parents born in TN, Dealer in livestock
Jennie S. Crum, Wife, F, W, 42 yrs old (DOB 1888), Married at age 24 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in TN, Both parents born in TN
Charles W. Crum, Adopted son, M, W, 8 yrs old (DOB 1922), Attends school, Born in TN, Both parents born in TN

Charles Walter Crum married Jessie Lou Brown. Jessie L. Brown was born 12/31/1921 in NC to Cyrus Leland Brown (DOB 2/18/1898 in Madison County, NC; DOD 4/11/1964 in Asheville, Buncombe County, NC) and Louella Ballard (DOB 7/22/1901 in NC; DOD 5/19/1970 in Asheville, Buncombe County, NC). They also had a 2nd daughter, Mary Nell Brown who married Gordon Bates Hux.


Asheville Citizen Times, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC, 7/31/1938, Pg 19 Jessie Brown Becomes Bride of C.W. Crum
Mr. and Mrs. Leland Brown, of 295 Shelburne road, West Asheville, have announced the marriage of their daughter Miss Jessie Lou Brown, to Charles Walter Crum, son of Mr. and Mrs. Walter Crum, formerly of Greeneville, Tenn. The marriage was solemnized Saturday, July 16, at 5:30 o'clock at Greenville, S.C. and the couple is now residing at 279 Shelburne road.
The bride received her education at Lee H. Edwards high school. Mr. Crum is affiliated with his father in business here.
The bride's mother, Mrs. Brown, entertained with a shower at her home last evening in honor of her daughter. Approximately 50 guests called during the evening. Games and contests were enjoyed and prizes were awarded. The house was effectively decorated for the occasion with cut flowers. The bride cut a wedding cake at the close of the festivities.


Charles W. Crum and Jessie Lou Brown had 2 sons:

1) Charles Dale Crum (DOB 5/15/1939 in Buncombe County, NC; DOD 10/16/2013 in Raleigh, Wake County, NC).

2) William Leland Crum (DOB 2/14/1941 in Buncombe County, NC; DOD 3/15/2011 in Buncombe County, NC).




1940 U.S. Census of David Drive, Asheville, Buncombe, North Carolina; Ancestry.com, Roll: T627_2878; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 11-41, Taken 4/9/1940, Lines 75-77, "Charles W. Crum"
Charles W. Crum, Head, Rents home for $12, M(ale), W(hite), 19 yrs old (DOB 1921), Married, Attended 1 yr high school, Born in TN, Lived in the same place in 1935, Truck driver for livestock market, Income $1,000
Jessie Lou Crum, Wife, F, W, 19 yrs old (DOB 1921), Married, Attended high school 3 yrs, Born in NC, Lived in the same place in 1935
Charles D. Crum, Son, M, W, 11/12 mos old (DOB 1939), Born in NC





WWII Draft Registration Card, Serial #469, Order #T10,798, Charles Walter Crum, DOB 7/26/1920
Serial #469, Charles Walter Crum, Order #T10,798
Residence: 295 Shelburne Rd, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC
21 yrs old, DOB 7/26/1920 in Greeneville, Greene County, TN
Name and Address o Person Who Will Always Know Your Address: Mrs. C.W. Crum
Employer: Mr. J.T. Moons, Southern Railway
White, 5'11", 145 lbs, Blue Eyes, Brown Hair, Ruddy Complexion
Signed by him on 2/16/1942 in Asheville, Buncombe County, NC

Charles Crum served in World War II in the U.S. Navy.



He had worked for Southern Railway. But he had a tragic accident on the job and he lost an arm and a leg!

Asheville Citizen Times, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC, 7/29/1947, Pg 23, "Chas. W. Crum Is Injured In Rail Accident"
Charles W. Crum, 26, of 295 Shelburne Road, West Asheville, a brakeman on a Southern Railway system switch engine at the American Enka corporation plant, lost an arm and a leg shortly after 10 a.m. yesterday when run over by the engine near the Enka plant, it was reported.
He was taken to Norburn hospital where his condition was said to be serious last night.
John Hastings, a conductor on the engine, said that none of the crew members saw the accident occur but apparently Mr. Crum got his foot caught in the "frog" of a switch and was run over while performing his duties. The arm was lost above the elbow and the let at the thigh, it was reported.


C.W. Crum then had a harrowing experience being kidnapped!





Gastonia Gazette, 11/6/1947, "Hunted Convict Captured Here"
James A. Stephenson, 22, One Of Trio Which Escaped From Sanatorium Nabbed Here; Was Object off Widespread Manhunt
By Blonnie Pittman
James A. Stephenson, 22, on of the trio of convicts who escaped from the tubercular ward at Sanatorium N.C. when they overpowered a guard on October 30, was captured at a cafe on Airline avenue by two officers of the police department.
A state-wide search was underway for Stephenson, whose home is said to be in Belmont, and Ballard Martin, 23, of Newton, who is still at large. Their other companion in the escape, Odell Holder, surrendered himself to authorities in Greensboro earlier in the week.
Since Their escape from the sanatorium the three have committed four crimes-kidnaped and robbed a white cab driver, a Negro cab driver, a crippled service station attendant, and a boy and girl, according to Stephenson's admission to officers. Each of the four offenses took place on different highways while the men were on a round of vandalism. In each instance they relieved the owners of their automobiles and abandoned the victims on the side of the roads. They tied each o the cab drivers to trees before they left them.
Stephenson, who is now at the State Prison Camp at Dallas awaiting federal officers, admitted his identity to City Policemen Jack Sarver and W.R. Harkness, who arrested him. Stephenson was recognized by Prison Guard Frank Holloway of the Newton Prison Camp, who told the local officers that the man who was drinking beer in the Gastonia cafe was Stephenson.
Another man, who was believed to be a companion in crime with Stephenson, possibly Ballard Martin, escaped from the scene at the appearance of the officers. Officers gave chase, and continued the search throughout the night without success. A third man who was arrested by the officers in the cafe for investigation Wednesday night proved his identity Thursday morning and was released as an innocent man.
Questioned by Oscar Adkins, fugitive officer from the prison department at Raleigh, and by Superintendent Fred Friday of the Dallas Prison Camp, Stephenson made the following confession about the kidnapping and robbing activities of the trio since they left the prison camp.
After they overpowered a guard at the sanatorium and took his keys, the trio operated an elevator and took other prisoners up and down for awhile. They left the sanatorium near Aberdeen in a truck and drove in the direction of Southern Pines. Between Aberdeen and Southern Pines they held up a boy and girl who were parked in a car on the road, and ordered them out o the car.
Friday night the trio went to High Point where they kidnapped a taxi driver, Paul Saunders, who was driving a Bluebird taxi. They took him and the taxi within three miles of Moxville. There they tied the taxi driver to a tree and confiscated $21 in money from the driver.
Proceeding to Morganton, the trio went to the home of Martin Ballard, 17 miles north of Morganton, and abandoned the cab in the woods there. Sunday night they resumed their criminal activities when they kidnaped a Negro taxi driver, Booker T. Ruff, in Asheville. They tied this driver to a tree on the side o the highway and left him. They drove the car for some distance from Asheville until they ran out of gas and abandoned the cab. They took $19 from the Negro driver. They also robbed the white driver of $21. However the escapees were tenderhearted to their victims in one respect, according to Stephenson's story. Because the cab drivers had no coats, they let their own coats around them. and returned $5 to one o the drivers.
Continuing their trip, the three went to the home of Charles W. Crum in West Asheville. They told Crum the gears on their car were faulty and asked him to drive them to Asheville. After Crum consented and was driving them to town, they informed him that he was being held up and Holder took the wheel. He drove past the Georgia line about 500 yards, discovered he was in another state and returned to the North Carolina line where they put Crum out of the car.
Crum is a one-legged, one-armed service station man who was crippled in a railroad accident several years ago. Officer Akins said the convict took $135 and a 32 revolver from Crum and drove his 1947 Oldsmobile close to Atlanta. There they turned around and came back to Charlotte. After they abandoned the Crum car, the trio separated. Holder went to Greensboro where he surrendered to officers. Ballard Martin is still free and Stephenson was apprehended here.
Crum's machine was recovered and returned to him Tuesday, officers said. The trio overlooked several hundred dollars that Crum had in another pocket.
Stephenson was sentenced to from six to ten years in prison in Cleveland county in 1942 for robbery with firearms. He is the son of J.W. Stephenson of Belmont, officers said.




Asheville Citizen Times, 11/9/1947, "Two Alleged Kidnapers Are Identified By Crum"
C.W. Crum kidnap victim who was enticed from his home on a plea that he help three men whose car had broken down, and then forced to drive to the Georgia-North Carolina state line where he was put out of the car, identified two of his alleged abductors at the county jail yesterday, officers said.
The men identified were listed as Odell Holder, 34, of Greensboro, and James Stephenson, 22, of Belmont and Asheville. Lodged in the jail as Federal prisoners they are held on charges of kidnapping under the Federal statute known as the "Lindbergh Law" and violation of the Dyer motor vehicle theft act.
Both waived preliminary hearing before U.S. Commissioner Lamar Gudger and were held for the criminal term of U.S. District court which convenes Monday.
Ballard Martin, 23, of Newton, the third member of the trio sought in connection with the kidnaping of Mr. Crum, a crippled filling station operator, was still at large last night, with Federal, State and local law enforcement officers on the alert to apprehend him. He is charged with kidnaping and violation of the Dyer act as are the other two.
Holder surrendered voluntarily to Greensboro authorities and Stephenson was apprehended in a Gastonia restaurant. Officers who are working on the case said that although the three escaped from the prison ward at Sanatorium, where they were under observation, only Holder is known to have tuberculosis.
In addition to the kidnaping of Mr. Crum, the three are also alleged to have held up Booker Ruff, Negro taxicab driver, finally putting him out of his car and tying him to a tree in the Bingham heights section.
Mr. Crum is said to have told officers that he was robbed of $135 by the three and that they overlooked an additional $400 which he had in a bank book in his pocket.


Charles Walter Crum made it home safely and his money and car were returned to him.

In 1953, Charles' father William Walter Crum died of a massive brain tumor at the age of 61 years old. His wife, Jennie Crum lived at 279 Sherbourne Avenue, Asheville, NC.

C.W. and Jessie Lou Crum were very active in their church. Jessie Crum was a charter member of Grace Baptist Church, 718 Haywood Road, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC. Charles was a deacon and involved in serving in sunday school and training union. When he died he was a deacon and superintendent of the Junior Sunday School and a member of the Men's Brotherhood of Grace Baptist Church.


In 1963, Charles W. Crum committed suicide in a local motel.

Asheville Citizen Times, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC, 11/5/1963, Pg 3, "Walter Crum Found Dead"
A West Asheville man's body was found Monday in a Hendersonville road motel with a bullet wound in the head, according to Dr. John C. Young, Buncombe County coroner.
Dr. Young identified the dead man as Charles Walter Crum, 43, of 295 Shelburne Rd., who was found in a motel at the junction of U.S. 25 and 25-A about 1:30 p.m. (Sun Valley Motel, 2507 Hendersonville Rd, Arden, Buncombe County, NC)
Dr. Young ruled that death came from a self-inflicted wound, and said that no inquest would be held. The body was taken to Groce Funeral Home, where arrangements will be announced later.


Asheville Citizen Times, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC, 11/6/1963, Pg 17
Services for Charles Walter Crum, 43, of 295 Shelburne Rd., who died Monday, will be held at 3 p.m. Wednesday in Grace Baptist Church of which he had been an active member for a number of years. The Rev. C.R. Pierce Jr., pastor, will officiate. Burial will be in Green Hills Cemetery.
Pallbearers will be R.M. Randolph, Ed Roberts, Milfred Parker, Maynard and Gurney Crum, Porter Joyner, R.C. Kinser and Bert Starnes. Honorary pallbearers will be members of the board of deacons and Men's Brotherhood of the church. The body will remain in Groce Funeral Home until taken to the church to lie in state 30 minutes prior to services.
Mr. Crum was an employee of Southern Railway for many years. serving as a brakeman in the Asheville yards until he lost an arm and a leg in an accident there. He had since been employed by Home Insulation Co. of Asheville. A native of Greene County, Tenn., he was a son of Mrs. Jennie Ricker Crum of Greeneville, Tenn., and the late Walter Crum. He was a veteran of World War II serving in the Navy. Mr. Crum was a member of the board of deacons and the Men's Brotherhood of Grace Church where he also served as superintendent of the Junior Sunday School Dept. and was a leader in the Training Union.
Surviving in addition to the mother are the widow, the former Miss Jessie Lou Brown, and two sons, William L. and Charles Dale Crum, both of Asheville.


I can only imagine the pain that caused him to commit suicide. He was only 43 and yet he had lived a lot in his 43 years. It seems he had some tragedies to overcome in his life that might have seemed insurmountable to a lot of people and yet he also had some good things that I'm sure brought him joy. He lived during the Great Depression. He had to serve during the world's greatest war, WWII, and yet he survived to come home. He married a beautiful woman and had two sons and had a home. He was involved in a horrible accident that cost him his arm and leg while on the job. Yet he survived and seems to have been employed as a filling station attendant and then at the insulation company. Just a few months after this terrible accident, the poor man is kidnapped and robbed and left on the side of the road. But he survived and got his car and money back. He lived next door to his in-laws and was very active in his local church where he was obviously respected. So what was the tipping point? What caused him to do it? It's just so sad.

He killed himself at the Sun Valley Motel in Arden, NC, south of Asheville. The Sun Valley Motel was operated until 2007 when it was demolished and replaced with a new Walgreens.





Charles W. Crum's sons married and had children. Charles Dale Crum and William Leland Crum also served in the U.S. Navy.

Jessie L. Brown's father, Cyrus Leland Brown, died about 5 months after her husband died, He was being treated for bladder cancer when he died of acute coronary heart disease.

Jessie Lou Brown Crum died at just 47 years old on 3/6/1969. She died of cardiac stand still due to renal failure, congestive heart failure (duration 2 years) due to hypertension, chronic nephritis (duration 10 years).


Asheville Citizen Times, 3/7/1969, Asheville, Buncombe County, NC, Pg 25
Mrs. Jessie Lou Brown Crum, 47, of 295 Shelburne Rd., died Thursday afternoon at her home after a long illness. A lifelong resident of Buncombe County, she was the widow of Charles Walter Crum, who died in 1963, and a daughter of Louella Ballard Brown and the late C. Leland Brown. Mrs. Crum was a charter member of Grace Baptist Church, where she was active in the junior and intermediate Training Union and the Sunday School.
Surviving in addition to the mother are two sons, William L. of Asheville and Charles Dale Crum of Durham; a sister, Mrs. Mary Nell Hux of Asheville; and three grandchildren. Services will be held at 3 p.m. Saturday in Grace Baptist Church. The Rev. C.R. Pierce Jr. and Dr. Cecil E. Sherman will officiate. Burial will be in Green Hills Cemetery...

Her mother, Louella Ballard Brown died the following year on 5/19/1970 in Asheville, NC of a heart attack at 68 years old. And Charles' mother, Jennie Ricker Crum, died a few months later on 11/26/1970 in Chapel Hill Nursing Home, Chapel Hill, Orange County, NC of cardiac arrhythmia at 82 years of age.

What is the Daughters of the American Revolution? The Daughters of the American Revolution is a nonprofit, nonpolitical women’s volunteer service organization. We are thelargest female lineage society in the country. Our common bond is our direct descent from Patriots of the American Revolution — any woman, regardless of race, religion or ethnic background, who can prove this lineage is eligible to join.

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When I was new in the DAR, I had the opportunity and privilege of attending a Continental Congress in Washington, D.C. I've also been able to attend a Spring Conference in Columbia, SC just last year. I plan on going again this year. The dress is less formal. I would say something appropriate for church or going out nice although there will be some in evening wear with white gloves.

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South Carolina Daughters participate in naturalization ceremonies, flag presentation and flag programs, literacy programs, schools events with Junior American Citizen clubs and contests, and give ROTC, DAR Good Citizens and Good Citizenship Medals. They plant trees, shrubs and flowers for the environment. They recycle. They conduct American History Contests and give American History Teacher Awards. They give scholarships. They place historical markers honoring people, buildings, and sites which remind us of our ancestors who fought for the freedoms we now enjoy.

South Carolina Period Room in the NSDAR Headquarters in Washington DC depicts an early nineteenth century bed chamber with its summer textile covering. The SCNSDAR are custodians of the Battleship South Carolina silver service. The battleship, The U.S.S. South Carolina, was christened on July 12, 1908. On board was a sixty-six piece silver service with each piece being a work of art, in that it depicted the fruit, flowers and foliage native to our State. The General Assembly allocated $5,000 to purchase this Silver in 1907. We were given custody of the service in 1921.

The competition between states within the DAR is what keeps projects going. Whether it be fundraising, the number of hours served, or who spearheads a successful project, competition drives the chapters. The projects are all worthy in historical value or in human value. After all we are not only a genealogy society but a service society as well. I am not a competitive person so it seems a little silly sometimes to compete over who raises the most money for the President General's latest project. But I realize that the projects are good projects and I'm glad they are able to raise the money, the concern and the volunteers to do whatever projects the DAR works on. You just have to realize you are dealing with human beings and so there is always some measure of competition, one-ups-manship, petty politics, pride and ego involved. But when you look at the bigger picture, all the projects are worth supporting. So I overlook that sort of stuff and keep myself out of it.

Another thing that plays into the competition are the "points". Your chapter is always looking for ways to add "points" each year to their chapter's totals. The goal is to at least have the same number of points as past years but you really want to do better each year. You gain recognition as you maneuver your chapter into higher levels based on the point system. Each individual member can contribute points by filling out a service questionnaire. You get points for flying an American flag at your home for participating in any history related activities, re-enactments, history fairs, commemorative events. If you recycle, if you volunteer to help veterans, if you subscribe to the NSDAR history magazine, etc. Your chapter also can do things that add points. If they have special speakers on history, the Revolution, Women's Issues, Veteran's Issues, etc you get points. Last Fall our chapter had a picnic at a local American Revolutionary battlefield called Musgrove Mills. They were having their Patriot's in Petticoats day so we actually doubled our points by going to Musgrove Mills and taking advantage of it being an historical event and it being a women's historical event! So, as you visit a chapter, don't be surprised to hear them talk about "points". As you rack up points, you and your chapter get certificates of recognition and awards, etc. A Chapter Regent doesn't want to be the Regent that let the chapter lose points and slip to a lower level on the point system. Also, there is some competition between chapters and current Regents versus former Regents. I've never seen this personally as our ladies don't lose their perspectives. But I've heard of it.



After the state level, you have districts. And within the districts, you have your local chapters. Our chapter is the NSDAR Kate Barry Chapter. The Kate Barry Chapter was organized October 1, 1901. Margaret Catherine "Kate" Moore was born in 1752 to the Moores who built the Walnut Grove Plantation in Moore, SC. She married Andrew Barry in 1767 at the age of fifteen. The two settled in Spartanburg County across the Tyger River, about two miles from Walnut Grove. Kate Barry was an excellent horsewoman, and she was very familiar with the wilderness and Indian trails around her plantation, Walnut Grove Plantation.


When the Revolutionary War broke out in 1776, Kate volunteered for the cause as a scout for patriot bands in the area. Her scouting operations were carried out mostly in the portion of Spartanburg County drained by the three Tyger Rivers. Her husband, Andrew, her brother, Thomas Moore, and several brothers-in-law were members of the patriot forces. It was not unusual for Kate to mount her horse, ride to the patriots' encampment, and warn her husband and the troops of impending danger. In the winter of 1781, Kate acted as a voluntary scout for Daniel Morgan, and she gathered patriot bands to send on to him. Her husband, Andrew, was a soldier under the command of General Pickens in the victorious Battle of Cowpens. For her efforts to increase the number of American patriots at the Battle of Cowpens, Kate Barry earned her reputation as the Heroine of the Battle of Cowpens.


Our chapter officers are:

Chapter Regent
Vice Regent
Recording Secretary
Corresponding Secretary/Chaplain
Treasurer
Registrar
Historian
Librarian
Parliamentarian

Our current Chapter Regent is Barbara VanDahm (2016-2019). We have about 50 members. Our chapter meets for luncheons once a month. We try to support the Tamassee DAR School, active servicemen/women, military veterans and helping to forward American History in our classrooms. Our chapter gave a $700 scholarship to one of Tamassee's deserving young ladies last year.

I'm very proud and happy to be a member of the Kate Barry Chapter and I call these ladies my friends.

There is an annual membership fee for the chapter. *

* This amount is decided and voted on by the membership. State dues are decided on during the conventions on the state level. National dues are decided and voted on in the annual Continental Congress on the national level. Let's say that National dues are $30/year, State dues are $10/year and chapter dues are $40/year. Then you would write a check for $80/year to your chapter and the Chapter Treasurer would send the National and State their part of the dues. You must pay these dues on time and have them into National and State on time. Even if you decide you no longer want to be a member, don't just quit paying your dues and showing up at the meetings! Write a formal letter to your Chapter Regent and copy to the Chapter Registrar stating that you are resigning. Without that letter, you won't be considered as leaving in "good standing" with the Chapter. Later, if you want to come back, you would be welcomed back but you would have to pay an extra small fee for getting "back into good standing". So if you decide to resign, write that letter. That will keep your name in good standing and will save you that extra fee if you want to join up again.

If you are a Daughter in good standing* with your chapter at the time of your death, your family can add the National Emblem to your gravestone. When I joined the DAR, I got my Mother and Sisters to join too and my Mother was really excited to be a part. But she has Alzheimer's Disease now so she can't attend and doesn't remember it. If I had not kept her membership up and paid her dues for her I wouldn't be able to get a marker on her gravestone. I could have written the above mentioned letter of resignation on her behalf but I just pay her dues so we can get her a marker when the time comes. But make sure your family knows this stuff because too many times, in a situation like this, the spouse or children just quit paying the dues and don't realize how it affects their mother's membership. Many of our members joined because their mothers and grandmothers were members and they, themselves, have now been members for 50 years! Having that marker on their gravestone really stands for something and it would be too bad if, in their decline, they stopped paying the dues.






What is a typical chapter meeting like?

We begin by calling the meeting to order and going through our ritual. Every chapter does this ritual. We stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance and the pledge to our state flags. We recite the American's Creed and some may recite the Preamble to the Constitution as well. The Chaplain will have a reading with member response and then repeat the DAR prayer.

Different members are assigned to do a Flag Minute, Native American Minute, National Defense Minute, Constitution Minute and American History Minute. This is where we read a blurb that has something to do with those subjects. Someone also reads the President General's monthly letter to the Daughters.

When addressing the Chapter Regent, we should use our good manners and call her Madame Regent. As a group, members are referred to as Daughters.

Someone will introduce our special speaker and they have about 30 mins to do their presentation. A thank you gift or notice of a donation in their honor will be presented. Then we eat our lunch (or dinner, depending on whether you attend a morning group or an evening group).

After eating we will discuss business and have reports from the officers. This is the time when we do discussion, voting, deciding on policies, making plans, etc. As the meeting winds down, we adjourn.



When you become a member of the NSDAR, you are allowed to wear THE PINS. It is not necessary for anyone to buy and wear pins but I'm very proud of my pins. I guess it's my way of showing off my hard work to be a member and to be active in membership. But it's not a necessity to being a member. In my chapters, I've never seen women be snobbish about their pins.

If you are a member you can at least get the National emblem, the chapter bar and your ancestor bar(s) on a ribbon. You order these pins and ribbons from Hamilton Insignia. The National emblem is a charm that hangs off the bottom of the ribbon. The chapter ribbon has the name of your DAR chapter and is pinned on the ribbon. The ancestor bars have your Patriot ancestor's name etched on it and is pinned to the ribbon.

I guess the pins would be synonymous with Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts getting pins for their sashes. The longer I'm in the DAR, the more I treasure the pins. It represents the hard work you did to prove your ancestry, as well as, the hard work you do within your chapter (or state or national). I have a chapter bar, 3 ancestor bars, states bars (NC and SC where my ancestors served), an officers bar (I've been our chapter's secretary for quite a few years now) and my National emblem.




In order to get a pin, you have to prove you are eligible for it. I can't just order any old DAR pin from Hamilton Insignia. I have to prove I am a member, that those are my proven ancestors, that I really have been an officer in my chapter, that I really belong to that chapter, etc. And the pins are not cheap. Mine are all gold filled pins and you are still looking at probably about $700 in pins. You can also purchase them in 14kt gold and I'm guessing it would be several thousand dollars for a strip like mine. But my little ribbon of pins is NOTHING compared to some of the women who have been active a lot more than I have and for a lot longer. They have dozens of proven ancestors and held multiple offices. They can be wearing a chest full of pins!




What kind of pins can you get besides the Basic Insignia, Chapter bar, Ancestor bar?  Pins by State (or overseas). National Level, State Level, Commemorative Events, Donations, President General Project, School Board, Social Clubs (like the Cameo Club which is made up of DAR members who are mother/daughter pairs), Volunteer Service Pins, and pins for Years of Service. There is a protocol for how you place the pins on the ribbons and how you wear the ribbons and pins.


In summary, the DAR provides the opportunity to…

• contribute to important service projects
• honor and preserve the legacy of Patriot ancestors
• make lifelong friends
• participate in unique social and service-oriented programs within your community
• discover programs that appeal to your interests
• gain valuable leadership experience
• establish a network of contacts in your community and around the world

Well, I've covered about all you need to know to get started in the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution. If you are interested in history, genealogy, service projects that help veterans, active servicemen(women), education, historical preservation... then you've come to the right place.

I'm going to have to take a little break from blogging as we move. Yes, my husband and I have decided to downsize big time. We are moving from our 3,000 sq ft house to a 3 bedroom apartment in an old cotton mill. We are working hard divesting, organizing, packing, and arranging for the mother of all yard sales.

Once we get settled, I will be back. Thank you for your patience.

Stan and I made a major life change since the new year. One of the local cotton mills has been converted to upscale loft apartments. I've been very happy in our big house. It was our dream home and I thought it would do us until the end. But it has been harder and harder to keep up with as we've aged. Taking care of, cleaning, maintaining a large home and our yard was taking it's toll.

It occurred to us that we could downsize. When we began thinking of it, we didn't really want another smaller house. Because that means you still have a mortgage, maintenance/repairs and yard work. We didn't want a condominium because you still have indoor maintenance and then we've seen a family member taken advantage of with high regime fees going to management who used the money for their own ends and let the condos fall into disrepair. So we thought a high-end rental would make sense. They would want to keep things in good repair to keep good renters. The loft apartments provide all appliances, a pool, grilling and dining al fresco, a gym and a dog park along with extensive walking trails. So we began to get excited and made the drastic decision to go for it! We don't want to be house poor (all our assets tied up in a house). At this stage in life, we want to be more mobile and liquid with less responsibilities.

We took a 3 bedroom apartment and then began downsizing in earnest. We had a huge yard sale and gave away truckloads to family and charity. We managed to go from an approximately 3,000 sq foot home to a 1,673 sq foot apartment. It was good but it was heart wrenching.

We had so many memories in our former home. But we also had so many memories in the THINGS in our home. What do you keep and what can you let go of? I had to be realistic and firm. I just didn't have room for everything. Don't get me wrong, we aren't hoarders, but we had so many things to deal with.

I'm a good housekeeper and organizer and we had a large house with tons of storage. So going through every drawer, closet, the attic, the cabinets, etc. was hard. Every time you touch something you are flooded with memories but you know you have to keep going and you have to deal with it by making a decision whether to keep it or get rid of it. If you keep it, where will you store it? If you are ready to let go of it, do you pass it on to a family member, a charity, or toss in the trash?

It STRETCHED my decluttering and organizing skills to the maximum and it STRESSED my genealogy and scrapbooking side to the max. For instance, what to do with my genealogy books? My books in general (I'm a big reader)? I decided to take my genealogy books and donate them to my local library's genealogy room so I could still access them but I don't have to take care of them. My regular books... I made a decision. I would keep my Bibles and devotionals but get rid of EVERY other book in my home. I can go strictly digital and use the library for hard backs. So I boxed all my books up and had them at the yard sale. What was left were donated to the Friends of the Library. I have my Bibles and devotionals in one small book case.

Then there were my scrapbooks. I had a full closet from top to bottom with my scrapbooks back when I did paper scrapbooks. I have, since, moved to digital scrapbooks. But what to do with all my old ones. I went through them and pulled together books that could be given to family members. That got rid of about a dozen books. The rest I organized into plastic boxes, clearly marked. They were worth keeping.

I had about a dozen different sets of china that I loved but it had become a pain to keep them all clean and sparkling. I carefully wrapped some of the sets up, put in plastic boxes and gave to family members because they were from my Grandmothers. I feel like they are being passed down to the next generation. But the rest were donated to charity. It feels good to know that I don't have to wash 4 huge china cabinets full of china, crystal, and silver every year during spring cleaning time. But it was wrenching to let them go too. I kept my silver baby cups but let go of the rest. No more silver polishing for me.

Anyway, as you can see, it was very hard. Hard work and emotionally hard. But it's freeing. I think my husband had a harder time than I did. But we kept telling ourselves that we are simplifying our life and think of the time, effort, money and worry we will save not having to keep up all the stuff,  the house and yard! We almost called it off a couple of times but we pressed on.

Three weeks ago we actually moved into the new apartment. The hardest part to get used to is the small bedrooms. We feel a little cramped but I keep telling myself that means less to dust, less to vacuum, less to mop, etc. Once I got my TV up and my rolling computer desk and computer equipment set up, I was OK. Being disabled, I stay in bed a lot and use my adjustable bed and rolling computer desk for hours. I don't need much room for that anyway.






After we got moved in we were able to get unpacked and set up and now are comfortable. But, of course, meanwhile, we also had to do minor repairs and clean the old house to get it on the market. I was the one doing the packing and yard sale. We were both doing the move on the big day. But my husband was more involved in getting the old house ready for market. I did some cleaning and painting but my job continued at our new home with unpacking and putting away. Considering we made the decision to move, got moved and now have the house in shape and on the market, all since the last week in January... we did pretty doggone good! But it was a very hard month.

We couldn't have done it just by ourselves. Our family chipped in all along the way and our friends, Randall and Mary, went above and beyond! We can't thank them enough. From Elaine and Hannah holding my hands as I plowed through boxes of memories, helping me tag with prices and getting ready for the yard sale, to Mike, Melinda, Mom, Dad, Elaine, Randall and Mary helping us during the yard sale! Did I mention a yard sale like this was like an estate sale while you're still alive?!? Those items that strangers were pawing through are MY MEMORIES! And they wanted them for a quarter or a dollar and I had to be willing to let them go for a quarter or a dollar. Then there were all the men in our family doing the heavy lifting on moving day! And Elaine and I were pushing carts of boxes from the parking lot to the elevator and up to our new 3rd floor apartment ALL DAY LONG! And the prayers and support from all our friends and family! Randall and Mary helped us do the repairs and clean up the old house. They do such a fantastic and meticulous job on everything they do. I truly could not do it better myself (and I mean that!). We paid them for that work but not nearly enough. They wouldn't take more. What they did was more a ministry to us. And Ronnie helped us just last week by doing a couple of things that we hadn't had time to get to. It was such a help because we had to get the house on the market. You can only make two payments for so long. Anyway, it comes down to everyone helping in the ways they could whether it was a prayer or painting or packing a box or helping in so many other ways and we appreciated all of them.

One last thought. Because of HGTV and so many home shows, it seems people expect homes to be staged and to look as generic as a hotel lobby. This is totally unrealistic. First, 95% of us aren't professional decorators. Second, we have limited budgets and cannot afford all new matchy-matchy furniture and accessories. Third, we live in our homes, they aren't stage dressing so to expect to tour someone's home and not see a toothbrush in the toothbrush holder, or a picture of Grandma on the wall or a shampoo bottle in the shower is unrealistic.

A house should be clean, decluttered, in good order and everything working.

But to expect a homeowner to repaint the entire house in neutral gray (it used to be neutral beige), purchase new furniture/window treatments and rent a pod (or storage unit) to put all personal items,,, is going too far. Our house is painted in acceptable colors, nothing too daring or too way out. But one realtor told us to repaint the entire inside a neutral gray and white and to remove all wallpaper. Do you know how much that would have cost us? And it would have meant the house wasn't ready for market for months and yet we weren't going to get any higher price?!? We have a brand new HVAC system, including ductwork just 8 mos ago. New roof, new windows, new floor coverings, all granite countertops, enclosed the garage to make an inlaw suite with 2nd kitchen. We've moved out, so there is no furniture or personal items. It's extra clean and all repairs up to date, the yard is immaculate. But none of this was good enough. That realtor wanted us to spend an additional $10,000 and a couple of months work, to paint it neutral gray.

I'm not mad at the realtors. They learn this stuff from real estate 101. It's because the buyers watch HGTV and expect every house to look like the Property Brothers just finished it and staged it for them. Or that it's going to look like the Flip or Flop couple just walked out the back door as they walked in the front door.

Come on people, get a grip. Those are TV shows and real life isn't that perfect and can't be. Besides, how do I know what color Family A expects my living room to be versus Family B or Family C? Family A may think gray is too cold and would prefer a warm tan and Family C might prefer a clean white! I can't possibly anticipate every taste of every possible buyer. But each buyer can use their own imagination and try to see the house in a color they want to paint it IF THEY BUY IT! As long as it's my house, it will be painted what I like. But once you buy it, it's yours and you can paint it any color you like. You can overlook my furniture and imagine it with your own furniture. But, while it's my house and I'm living in it, it will have my furniture in it.

Of course, there are commonsense limits. If you have wall to wall furniture or such big pieces that it makes your room abnormally small, then you may need to make adjustments. If you've painted a room a vivid purple, then you need to expect that most people wouldn't like your choice and maybe that room needs to be painted. Those are commonsense things that homeowners need to be aware of.

But commonsense goes both ways. Buyers need to use commonsense and imagination to see beyond the current owner's furniture or paint colors. Look at the bones, at the location, at your budget and at the level of skill sets available to you and see if this home can become what you want. If not, move on to the next house. But don't have unrealistic expectations based on TV shows.

Another point to think of is how much is real and how much may cover up something. Let's say the homeowner is told by their real estate agent to paint the rooms. Do you really think the homeowner is going to spend money on the best paint? Why would they, when they aren't going to be living there? You will probably get cheap paint and maybe a sub par job just so it will be "neutral". What if a realtor tells a homeowner to take down an old light fixture because it "dates" the house? More than likely the homeowner will buy a cheap replacement light fixture and call the cheapest electrician to install it. Is it done right? It may look pretty for a little while but those cheap box store fixtures come from China!

My point is, a buyer expects it all to look perfect but how does the buyer know if it's just cheap lipstick and rouge? A buyer is relying on a homeowner who is ready to sell the property. As a buyer, I'd rather do most repairs and remodeling myself. That way I can choose the best paint, choose my own contractors, make my own decisions. I'd rather be in control of what happens to the home I'm going to be living in so it would be done to my specifications and my satisfaction.

So, I say, again, use your imagination, don't have unrealistic expectations. There are some things that are non-negotiable. Concentrate on them. Such as price, location, quality of build, size of the lot, square footage, how the rooms are arranged. Don't look at a two story house if you need one story living. Don't look at a house on the west side when you work on the east side. Don't look at a house that is 1,500 square feet when you need at least 2,300 square feet. But if the house is in the right location, has the right size lot, has the right square footage, has the right number of bedrooms and bathrooms, then look at it as a good-bones house and use your imagination to see if it can be made into what you want and need, within your budget. Decide if you have the budget, the time and available skill sets to do it. By "available skill sets", I mean can you, or someone you trust and know, do what is needed? Do you have access and knowledge of contractors that are trustworthy and professional? Do you know of family members that are good at certain skills? Or maybe a friend that you can trust to do it or give you good advice? These are resources and skill sets available to you. If I didn't have access to trustworthy skill sets to do a quality job, then my decisions would have to be very different.

Do I make sense? I know I'm going on and on but I'm in the middle of this and I'm seeing it from all sides. Be a wise homeowner and use commonsense. Be a wise seller and use commonsense and keep all things in proper perspective. Be a wise buyer and use commonsense and imagination as you look.

Above all, if you are a Christian (a true believer in Jesus Christ), whatever your dealings, do so with honesty and a commitment to do the right thing. In our case, with selling the house, we decided not to repaint the house in neutral gray. Our paint, inside and out, was done with the best paint we could afford and to the best of our ability when we still thought the house was going to be ours until our death. We decided that the colors are fine and it wouldn't be right to buy cheap paint and slap and dash it on the walls just so it would look "neutral". It's not fair to us to go to that trouble and expense and it's not fair to the buyer to get a poor paint job done with cheap paint. It's clean and in excellent shape. We made sure any chips and scrapes were touched up with the same paint we painted it with originally. I made sure to clean and wipe down all the closets and cabinets and under every appliance. We swept up the attic after we emptied it. The floors are gleaming and the cabinets have been scrubbed and oiled until they also gleam. The windows are sparkling and the appliances and light fixtures are clean. No dust on the fan blades, the chandelier is polished, etc. We've done our best by our house and whoever gets it will be getting a good deal. We can sleep at nights knowing the buyer of our house is getting the best we could have done. And while we are renting our apartment, we will keep it to the best of our ability and leave it in as good a shape as we can. And if we buy a house, we will use commonsense as we look and be aboveboard in our dealings. We trust the Lord to guide our decisions and lead us to the right place, not in the machinations of a realtor, flipper, a clever decorator/stager, or TV show.

We made the big change of downsizing and moving into a 3 bedroom loft apartment. But we were not happy. Within 5 weeks, we moved back home. (See my last post about our move to the apartment.) We thought downsizing and moving into the apartment would relieve us of some of the nagging and constant demands of owning a home. No yard work, no maintenance and repairs, no replacing appliances, roofs and heat pumps, etc And with a smaller area, cleaning the house would be a breeze! But going from nearly 3,000 sq ft to 1,673 sq ft was more difficult than I imagined. The bedrooms were particularly small and I spend a good deal of time in my bedroom. I felt shoehorned in.

I made it nice and it was clean and organized. But it was just too small and I see no reason to accept the unacceptable when I don't have to. We still owned our 3,000 sq ft home. It showed a lot and we had good comments but no offers and so it was still ours. After much prayer, my husband and I agreed to move back home. Expensive lesson learned. We are not tiny house people. If we had to, we could do it. But if we don't have to, we won't. As long as we can keep our house, we will keep it.

So, I've been back off my blog for a few more weeks because of moving back home. We've been in flux for about 3 months and I hope that is over.

Matthew 27:24-54 (Contemporary English Version - CEV) Pilate saw that there was nothing he could do and that the people were starting to riot. So he took some water and washed his hands in front of them and said, "I won't have anything to do with killing this man. You are the ones doing it!" (25) Everyone answered, "We and our own families will take the blame for his death!" 26) Pilate set Barabbas free. Then he ordered his soldiers to beat Jesus with a whip and nail him to a cross.

Note - Jesus died to save us from our sins and give us eternal life. It is by His blood that we are saved. Notice that the crowd actually, and unintentionally, prophesied. In the Modern King James Version - MKJV) it says in Mat 27:25 "Then all the people answered and said, 'Let His blood be on us and on our children.'" It is His Blood that saves us, if we accept it. It is His Blood that convicts us if we refuse His offer of salvation. "Let His Blood be upon us and on our children" was a prophesy that finds it's fulfillment in either our salvation (by accepting His Blood upon us) or judgment (by rejecting His Blood).

(27) The governor's soldiers led Jesus into the fortress and brought together the rest of the troops. (28) They stripped off Jesus' clothes and put a scarlet robe on him. (29) They made a crown out of thorn branches and placed it on his head, and they put a stick in his right hand. The soldiers knelt down and pretended to worship him. They made fun of him and shouted, "Hey, you king of the Jews!" (30) Then they spit on him. They took the stick from him and beat him on the head with it. (31) When the soldiers had finished making fun of Jesus, they took off the robe. They put his own clothes back on him and led him off to be nailed to a cross. (32) On the way they met a man from Cyrene named Simon, and they forced him to carry Jesus' cross. (33) They came to a place named Golgotha, which means "Place of a Skull." (34) There they gave Jesus some wine mixed with a drug to ease the pain. But when Jesus tasted what it was, he refused to drink it. (35) The soldiers nailed Jesus to a cross and gambled to see who would get his clothes. (36) Then they sat down to guard him. (37) Above his head they put a sign that told why he was nailed there. It read, "This is Jesus, the King of the Jews." (38) The soldiers also nailed two criminals on crosses, one to the right of Jesus and the other to his left. (39) People who passed by said terrible things about Jesus. They shook their heads and (40) shouted, "So you're the one who claimed you could tear down the temple and build it again in three days! If you are God's Son, save yourself and come down from the cross!" (41) The chief priests, the leaders, and the teachers of the Law of Moses also made fun of Jesus. They said, (42) "He saved others, but he can't save himself. If he is the king of Israel, he should come down from the cross! Then we will believe him. (43) He trusted God, so let God save him, if he wants to. He even said he was God's Son." (44) The two criminals also said cruel things to Jesus. (45) At noon the sky turned dark and stayed that way until three o'clock. (46) Then about that time Jesus shouted, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?" (47) Some of the people standing there heard Jesus and said, "He's calling for Elijah." (48) One of them at once ran and grabbed a sponge. He soaked it in wine, then put it on a stick and held it up to Jesus. (49) Others said, "Wait! Let's see if Elijah will come and save him." (50) Once again Jesus shouted, and then he died. (51) At once the curtain in the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, and rocks split apart. (52)  Graves opened, and many of God's people were raised to life. (53) Then after Jesus had risen to life, they came out of their graves and went into the holy city, where they were seen by many people. (54) The officer and the soldiers guarding Jesus felt the earthquake and saw everything else that happened. They were frightened and said, "This man really was God's Son!"

Upon Christ's death, "the curtain in the temple was torn in two from top to bottom". What is this curtain or veil? The original Tabernacle was a tent that God had made to very exacting standards. He gave Moses the instructions and he oversaw the making of the Tabernacle. It had 3 sections. The outer court, the inner court and the Holy of Holies. In the Holy of Holies was the Ark of the Covenant with a top called the Mercy Seat. To go between the inner or holy court into the Holy of Holies was forbidden by everyone but the High Priest and he could only go in once a year and had to be specially prepared. So the Veil, or Curtain, was what separated the Holy of Holies. The Tabernacle was built so that God could dwell among His People, the Israelites (aka Hebrews or Jews). It was always found in the center of the camp with the Twelve Tribes of Israel camped about it. Jesus, the Son of God, came to earth and lived as a man. He was fully God, but also fully human. As He lived among men for 33 yrs, He never once sinned. His work was to come to earth and live as one of us and point us to the Father. Then He was to be offered up as a pure and holy sacrifice (He never sinned so He was pure) on our behalf. The Bible says He also acts as our High Priest so He was not only the sacrifice, but also the High Priest who offered Himself as a sacrifice before God to pay for our sins. But He not only was the sacrifice and the High Priest, be He was also the Tabernacle who came to live among His People. And it is through Him, just as the High Priest went through the veil in the Tabernacle once a year to offer atonement for the sins of the nation, that lived among us and once and for all removed the veil, or curtain, that separated us from God the Father. As Jesus physically paid the price with the killing of His Body, so the veil was torn and was no longer needed. And the veil was torn from top to bottom which indicates that God tore the veil, not man. God allowed His Son to be killed in order for us to have free access to the Father. We can sit on the Mercy Seat, also a symbol of Christ who provided us with access to God's mercy and grace, and converse directly with Father God. The Ark of the Covenant was about the promises of God and we can sit on the promises of God and know they are for us too. We can trust in His promises.

Hebrews 9:11-14 (Easy To Read Version - ERV) But Christ has already come to be the high priest. He is the high priest of the good things we now have. But Christ does not serve in a place like the tent that those other priests served in. He serves in a better place. Unlike that tent, this one is perfect. It was not made by anyone here on earth. It does not belong to this world. (12) Christ entered the Most Holy Place only one time—enough for all time. He entered the Most Holy Place by using his own blood, not the blood of goats or young bulls. He entered there and made us free from sin forever. (13) The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a cow were sprinkled on those who were no longer pure enough to enter the place of worship. The blood and ashes made them pure again—but only their bodies. (14) So surely the blood sacrifice of Christ can do much more. Christ offered himself through the eternal Spirit as a perfect sacrifice to God. His blood will make us completely clean from the evil we have done. It will give us clear consciences so that we can worship the living God.

Hebrews 10:19-22 (ERV) And so, brothers and sisters, we are completely free to enter the Most Holy Place. We can do this without fear because of the blood sacrifice of Jesus. (20) We enter through a new way that Jesus opened for us. It is a living way that leads through the curtain—Christ's body. (21) And we have a great priest who rules the house of God. (22) Sprinkled with the blood of Christ, our hearts have been made free from a guilty conscience, and our bodies have been washed with pure water. So come near to God with a sincere heart, full of confidence because of our faith in Christ.

Next came an earthquake that split rocks apart. This shows the power of God and power of Christ's death. Our hearts are harder as a rock, impenetrable and unmovable. But Christ's atoning death breaks our hard hearts. All of the walls around our hearts that we've built up in defense, come crashing down when Christ comes in.

Jeremiah 5: 3b (MKJV) ...they have refused to receive correction; they have made their faces harder than rock; they have refused to return.

Then, something astonishing, some of the graves broke open and dead people came alive again and were seen by their friends and family in the city. You see, Christ died and set dead people free. We were dead in our sins and we've been set free through Christ. These people more than likely ascended with Jesus when He ascended into Heaven later. Jesus rose from the dead and spent time with His Disciples before He ascended into Heaven. When He ascended, those who had come forth from the graves may have joined Him in ascension. We are not told and so this is just a supposition.


A panel painting by the Flemish artist Rogier van der Weyden created circa 1435, now in the Museo del Prado, Madrid. It depicts Jesus' body being held by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus

Matthew 27:54-66 (ERV) The army officer and the soldiers guarding Jesus saw this earthquake and everything that happened. They were very afraid and said, "He really was the Son of God!" (55) Many women were standing away from the cross, watching. These were the women who had followed Jesus from Galilee to care for him. (56) Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of James and John were there. (57) That evening a rich man named Joseph came to Jerusalem. He was a follower of Jesus from the town of Arimathea. (58) He went to Pilate and asked to have Jesus' body. Pilate gave orders for the soldiers to give Jesus' body to him. (59) Then Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a new linen cloth. (60) He put Jesus' body in a new tomb that he had dug in a wall of rock. Then he closed the tomb by rolling a very large stone to cover the entrance. After he did this, he went away. (61) Mary Magdalene and the other woman named Mary were sitting near the tomb. (62) That day was the day called Preparation day. The next day, the leading priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate. (63) They said, "Sir, we remember that while that liar was still alive he said, 'I will rise from death in three days.' (64) So give the order for the tomb to be guarded well for three days. His followers might come and try to steal the body. Then they could tell everyone that he has risen from death. That lie will be even worse than what they said about him before." (65) Pilate said, "Take some soldiers and go guard the tomb the best way you know." (66) So they all went to the tomb and made it safe from thieves. They did this by sealing the stone in the entrance and putting soldiers there to guard it.

In order to understand who Joseph of Arimathea was, let's look at the other Gospels.

Mark 15:40-47 Some women were standing away from the cross, watching. Among these women were Mary Magdalene, Salome, and Mary the mother of James and Joses. (James was her youngest son.) (41) These were the women who had followed Jesus in Galilee and cared for him. Many other women who had come with Jesus to Jerusalem were also there. (42) This day was called Preparation day. (That means the day before the Sabbath day.) It was becoming dark. (43) A man named Joseph from Arimathea was brave enough to go to Pilate and ask for Jesus' body. Joseph was an important member of the high council. He was one of the people who wanted God's kingdom to come. (44) Pilate was surprised to hear that Jesus was already dead. So he called for the army officer in charge and asked him if Jesus was already dead. (45) When Pilate heard it from the officer, he told Joseph he could have the body. (46) Joseph bought some linen cloth. He took the body from the cross, wrapped it in the linen, and put the body in a tomb that was dug in a wall of rock. Then he closed the tomb by rolling a large stone to cover the entrance. (47) Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses saw the place where Jesus was put.

Luke 23:48-56 Many people had come out of the city to see all this. When they saw it, they felt very sorry and left. (49) The people who were close friends of Jesus were there. Also, there were some women who had followed Jesus from Galilee. They all stood far away from the cross and watched these things. (50) A man named Joseph was there from the Jewish town of Arimathea. He was a good man, who lived the way God wanted. He was waiting for God's kingdom to come. Joseph was a member of the Jewish council. But he did not agree when the other Jewish leaders decided to kill Jesus. (52) He went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. (53) He took the body down from the cross and wrapped it in cloth. Then he put it in a tomb that was dug in a wall of rock. This tomb had never been used before. (54) It was late on Preparation day. When the sun went down, the Sabbath day would begin. (55) The women who had come from Galilee with Jesus followed Joseph. They saw the tomb. Inside they saw where he put Jesus' body. (56) Then they left to prepare some sweet-smelling spices to put on the body. On the Sabbath day they rested, as commanded in the Law of Moses.

John 19:38-42 Later, a man named Joseph from Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. (Joseph was a follower of Jesus, but he did not tell anyone, because he was afraid of the Jewish leaders.) Pilate said Joseph could take Jesus' body, so he came and took it away. (39) Nicodemus went with Joseph. He was the man who had come to Jesus before and talked to him at night. He brought about 100 pounds of spices—a mixture of myrrh and aloes. (40) These two men took Jesus' body and wrapped it in pieces of linen cloth with the spices. (This is how the Jews bury people.) (41) In the place where Jesus was killed on the cross, there was a garden. In the garden there was a new tomb. No one had ever been buried there before.  (42)  The men put Jesus in that tomb because it was near, and the Jews were preparing to start their Sabbath day.

We know that Joseph was from a town called Arimathea which was in Judea. But it's not sure which town in Judea it was. There are several possibilities. We also know that he was wealthy and already had a tomb for himself. He purchased fine linen particularly to wrap the body of Jesus in. We also know that he was a member of the Sanhedrin but was not one of the Sanhedrin that hated Jesus and participated in the mock trial. He was actually a friend of Jesus and became a believer. There is speculation that Joseph of Arimathea, or Joseph of Glastonbury as he was later called, was the uncle of Mary, mother of Jesus.

According to various historical sources, Joseph's actions provoked both the Roman and Jewish elders and he eventually did spend time in prison for his support of Jesus. Joseph of Arimathea is venerated as a saint by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and some Protestant churches. Legends have grown up around

"Other historical sources report that Joseph of Arimathea went on a preaching mission to Gaul with the apostle Phillip, Mary Magdalene, Lazarus, and others sometime between the years A.D. 37 and A.D. 63 (the year is in dispute). At Marseilles, Lazarus and Mary parted company with the main group who continued on further up North. When Joseph's party reached the English Channel, Phillip sent Joseph with 12 disciples to the furthest corner of the Roman Empire, the Island of the Britons. Legend has it that Joseph sailed around Land's End at the southern tip of England with the intent of catching up with old business acquaintances in the lead and tin mines. They ran aground in the Glastonbury marshes. Once again, it is reported that after climbing a nearby hill to survey the countryside, they were exhausted and Joseph thrust into the ground a staff made from the 'Holy Crown of Thorns' worn by Christ. He announced that he and his traveling companions were all weary. It is legendary that the thorn staff immediately took root and the thorn bush can still be seen today on 'Wearyall Hill.' Joseph built a church (Vetusta Ecclesia) of mud and wattle on the site and decreed that 12 monks should always reside in that most sacred place. It is interesting to note that a spirited shrub which grows near the now ruined Abbey is of the same type that grows in the Eastern Mediterranean and flowers only twice a year - Christmas time and Easter. It is also claimed that Joseph collected some of the blood and sweat of Christ after His side was pierced as He hung on the cross. The chalice or cup which Joseph used to collect the fluids is reported to be the same one used during the last supper. Joseph took the cup with him on his voyage to England and is said to have hidden it on the site at Glastonbury, at the bottom of a deep well, called the 'Chalice Well', or the 'Blood Well.' The well is a rather curious place, 25 thousand gallons of red-tinted water pass through the well area each day. The red tint is caused by high iron content in the water.

These are unsubstantiated legends but very interesting.


Nicodemus is mentioned earlier in the gospels." (see the link for the full article)

John 3:1-21 (ERV) There was a man named Nicodemus, one of the Pharisees. He was an important Jewish leader. (2) One night he came to Jesus and said, "Teacher, we know that you are a teacher sent from God. No one can do these miraculous signs that you do unless they have God's help." (3) Jesus answered, "I assure you, everyone must be born again. Anyone who is not born again cannot be in God's kingdom." (4) Nicodemus said, "How can a man who is already old be born again? Can he go back into his mother's womb and be born a second time?" (5) Jesus answered, "Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God's kingdom. (6) The only life people get from their human parents is physical. But the new life that the Spirit gives a person is spiritual. (7) Don't be surprised that I told you, 'You must be born again.' (8) The wind blows wherever it wants to. You hear it, but you don't know where it is coming from or where it is going. It is the same with everyone who is born from the Spirit." (9) Nicodemus asked, "How is all this possible?" (10) Jesus said, "You are an important teacher of Israel, and you still don't understand these things? (11) The truth is, we talk about what we know. We tell about what we have seen. But you people don't accept what we tell you. (12) I have told you about things here on earth, but you do not believe me. So I'm sure you will not believe me if I tell you about heavenly things! (13) The only one who has ever gone up to heaven is the one who came down from heaven—the Son of Man. (14) "Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted up too. (15) Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life." (16) Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life. (17) God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty, but to save the world through him. (18) People who believe in God's Son are not judged guilty. But people who do not believe are already judged, because they have not believed in God's only Son. (19) They are judged by this fact: The light has come into the world. But they did not want light. They wanted darkness, because they were doing evil things. (20) Everyone who does evil hates the light. They will not come to the light, because the light will show all the bad things they have done. (21) But anyone who follows the true way comes to the light. Then the light will show that whatever they have done was done through God.

John 7:40-45 (ERV) When the people heard the things that Jesus said, some of them said, "This man really is the Prophet." (41) Other people said, "He is the Messiah." And others said, "The Messiah will not come from Galilee. (42) The Scriptures say that the Messiah will come from the family of David. And they say that he will come from Bethlehem, the town where David lived." (43) So the people did not agree with each other about Jesus. (44) Some of the people wanted to arrest him. But no one tried to do it. (45) The Temple police went back to the leading priests and the Pharisees. The priests and the Pharisees asked, "Why didn't you bring Jesus?" (46) The Temple police answered, "We have never heard anyone say such amazing things!" (47)The Pharisees answered, "So he has fooled you too! (48) You don't see any of the leaders or any of us Pharisees believing in him, do you? (49)But those people out there know nothing about the law. They are under God's curse!" 50) But Nicodemus was there in that group. He was the one who had gone to see Jesus before. He said, (51) "Our law will not let us judge anyone without first hearing them and finding out what they have done." (52) The Jewish leaders answered, "You must be from Galilee too! Study the Scriptures. You will find nothing about a prophet coming from Galilee." (53) Then they all left and went home.

From what we read earlier, Joseph of Arimathea provided his own tomb and fine linen for Jesus' burial and Nicodemus provided expensive balm from a mixture of myrrh and aloes so he was probably wealthy as well.

In the apocryphal books there is a Gospel of Nicodemus. Nicodemus is venerated as a saint in the various Eastern Churches and in the Roman Catholic Church.



The traditional location of Golgotha derives from its identification by Helena, the mother of Constantine I, in 325. A few yards nearby, Helena also identified the location of the tomb of Jesus and claimed to have discovered the True Cross; her son, Constantine, then built the Church of the Holy Sepulchre around the whole site. It also is to include the Tomb of Christ. But scholars have disputed this as the place o Calvary and the Tomb. See Wikipedia on Calvary and on the Tomb of Jesus and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

For a detailed look on what happened to Jesus' body immediately upon death see my post on that.


After Jesus died on the cross, where was He until He rose again three days later? From my last post, we know He was left in Joseph of Arimathea's tomb with the stone rolled over it and the Jewish leaders had it sealed and the Roman soldiers guarded it.

Let's look at what we know about the afterlife BEFORE Jesus died and rose again.

The dead went to a place called Hades in Greek and Sheol in Hebrew meaning the Place of the Dead. It's possible that it was in the "bowels of the earth" as it is described in the Bible.

While the bodies die and lie in the grave here on earth, the souls went to Sheol/Hades either to the righteous side or the ungodly side.

Job talks about how his body dies but his soul goes to Sheol and he believes there is a future where God will bring him out. Jesus did that.
Job 14:12-14 So man goes down to his last resting-place and comes not again: till the heavens come to an end, they will not be awake or come out of their sleep. (13) If only you would keep me safe in the underworld, putting me in a secret place till your wrath is past, giving me a fixed time when I might come to your memory again! (14) If death takes a man, will he come to life again? All the days of my trouble I would be waiting, till the time came for me to be free.

2 Peter 2:9 ((Bible In Basic English - BBE) The Lord is able to keep the upright safe in the time of testing, and to keep evil-doers under punishment till the day of judging;

There is a prophesy by Isaiah about the death of the King of Babylon. Isaiah 14:4-20 the eventual defeat and death of the king of Babylon who was king of the nation that would eventually send Judah into captivity. (By that time, Israel had divided into Judah and Israel.) The kings of the earth (Isa. 14:9), who preceded him in death, taunt him. These are kings he had conquered with the sword and ruled over with a cruel hand (Isa. 14:6). These men welcomed him in Sheol. All of those who find themselves in this section of Sheol/Hades will be faced with the punishment of knowing they have no hope of ever have a relationship with God. They missed their chance. While their bodies have been placed in their graves, the King of Babylon was not so honored. This man's body was tossed aside and treated as trash while his soul went to Sheol.

Isaiah 14:18-20 (Contemporary English Version - CEV) When kings die, they are buried in glorious tombs. (19) But you will be left unburied, just another dead body lying underfoot like a broken branch. You will be one of many killed in battle and gone down to the deep rocky pit. (20) You won't be buried with kings; you ruined your country and murdered your people. You evil monster! We hope that your family will be forgotten forever.

In Ezekiel there is another Prophet who prophesies over Pharoah, the ruler over Egypt, and the King of Assyria, another enemy of Israel/Judah, In this quote, Ezekiel is talking about Pharoah, as compared to his rival world power, the King of Assyria.

Ezekiel 31:13-15 (MKJV) On his ruin shall all the birds of the heavens remain, and all the beasts of the field shall be on his branches, (14) to the end that none of all the trees by the waters shall be exalted in their height, nor give their top among the thick boughs, nor should their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water. For all of them are given to death, to the lower parts of the earth, in the midst of the sons of men, with those who go down into the Pit. (15) So says the Lord Jehovah: In the day when he went down to the grave, I caused a mourning. I covered the deep for him, and I held back its floods, and the great waters were held back. And I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted because of him...
Ezekiel 31:18 To whom are you like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? Yet you shall be brought down with the trees of Eden to the lower parts of the earth. You shall lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with those slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, says the Lord Jehovah.

Ezekiel 32:11-32 (ERV) That will happen because of what the Lord GOD said: "The sword of the king of Babylon will come to fight against you. (12) I will use those soldiers to kill your people in battle. They come from the most terrible of the nations. They will destroy the things Egypt is proud of. The people of Egypt will be destroyed. (13) There are many animals by the rivers in Egypt. I will also destroy all those animals. People will not make the waters muddy with their feet anymore. The hoofs of cattle will not make the water muddy anymore. (14) So I will make the water in Egypt calm. I will cause their rivers to run slowly—they will be slick like oil." This is what the Lord GOD said. (15) "I will make the land of Egypt empty. That land will lose everything. I will punish all the people living in Egypt. Then they will know that I am the LORD! (16) "This is a sad song that people will sing for Egypt. The daughters in other nations will sing this sad song. They will sing it as a sad song about Egypt and all its people." This is what the Lord GOD said. (17) On the fifteenth day of that month in the twelfth year of exile, the word of the LORD came to me. He said, (18) "Son of man, cry for the people of Egypt. Lead Egypt and the daughters from powerful nations to the grave. Lead them to the world below where they will be with the other people who went down into that deep hole. (19) "Egypt, you are no better than anyone else! Go down to the place of death. Go lie down with those foreigners. (20) "Egypt will go to be with all the other men who were killed in battle. The enemy has pulled her and all her people away. (21) "Strong and powerful men were killed in battle. Those foreigners went down to the place of death. And from that place, those who were killed will speak to Egypt and his helpers. (22) "Assyria and all its army are there in the place of death. Their graves are deep down in that deep hole. All the Assyrian soldiers were killed in battle, and their graves are all around his grave. When they were alive, they made people afraid, but they were all killed in battle. (24) "Elam is there and all its army is around her grave. All of them were killed in battle. Those foreigners went deep down into the ground. When they were alive, they made people afraid. But they carried their shame with them down to that deep hole. (25) They have made a bed for Elam and all its soldiers who were killed in battle. Elam's army is all around its grave. All those foreigners were killed in battle. When they were alive, they scared people. But they carried their shame with them down into that deep hole. They were put with all the other people who were killed. (26) "Meshech, Tubal, and all their armies are there. Their graves are around it. All those foreigners were killed in battle. When they were alive, they made people afraid. (27) But now they are lying down by the powerful men who died long, long ago! They were buried with their weapons of war. Their swords will be laid under their heads. But their sins are on their bones, because when they were alive, they scared people. (28) "Egypt, you also will be destroyed, and you will lie down by those foreigners. You will lie with the other soldiers who were killed in battle. (29) "Edom is there also. His kings and other leaders are there with him. They were powerful soldiers, but now they lie with the other men who were killed in battle. They are lying there with those foreigners. They are there with the other people who went down into that deep hole. (30) "The rulers from the north are there, all of them, and there are all the soldiers from Sidon. Their strength scared people, but they are embarrassed. Those foreigners lie there with the other men who were killed in battle. They carried their shame with them down into that deep hole. (31) "Yes, Pharaoh and all his army will be killed in battle. Pharaoh will be comforted when he sees his many men and all the others who went down into the place of death." This is what the Lord GOD said. (32) "People were afraid of Pharaoh when he was alive, but he will lie down next to those foreigners. Pharaoh and his army will lie down with all the other soldiers who were killed in battle." This is what the Lord GOD said.

This place was divided into 3 sections: Abraham's Bosom (sometimes referred to as Paradise) where those, who believe in the true God, went. There was also a place of suffering punishment where those who rejected God went. And, finally, Tartarus where the fallen angels dwell. The divide between the Paradise and where the ungodly are suffering punishment is a huge and uncrossable chasm. Sheol is a "temporary" place off the dead.

Luke 16:19-31 (Contemporary English Version - CEV) There was once a rich man who wore expensive clothes and every day ate the best food. (20) But a poor beggar named Lazarus was brought to the gate of the rich man's house. (21) He was happy just to eat the scraps that fell from the rich man's table. His body was covered with sores, and dogs kept coming up to lick them. (22) The poor man died, and angels took him to the place of honor next to Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried. (23) He went to hell and was suffering terribly. When he looked up and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side, (24) he said to Abraham, "Have pity on me! Send Lazarus to dip his finger in water and touch my tongue. I'm suffering terribly in this fire." (25) Abraham answered, "My friend, remember that while you lived, you had everything good, and Lazarus had everything bad. Now he is happy, and you are in pain. (26) And besides, there is a deep ditch between us, and no one from either side can cross over." (27) But the rich man said, "Abraham, then please send Lazarus to my father's home. (28) Let him warn my five brothers, so they won't come to this horrible place." (29) Abraham answered, "Your brothers can read what Moses and the prophets wrote. They should pay attention to that." (30) Then the rich man said, "No, that's not enough! If only someone from the dead would go to them, they would listen and turn to God." (31) So Abraham said, "If they won't pay attention to Moses and the prophets, they won't listen even to someone who comes back from the dead."


2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare sinning angels, but thrust them down into Tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, being reserved to judgment.

After Christ's death and resurrection, Paradise (or Abraham's Bosom) was moved to Heaven. After Jesus Christ rose from the dead He ascended to the Father, taking the saints who were in Abraham’s Bosom to heaven with Him. Thus, He took “captivity captive”.

Ephesians 4:4-10 (Modern King James Version - MKJV) There is one body and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling, (5) one Lord, one faith, one baptism, (6) one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in you all. (7) But to every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. (8) Therefore He says, "When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive and gave gifts to men." (9) (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? (10) He who descended is the same also as He who ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fill all things.)

There we await Christ's return and the final judgment. Because we know Christ and have accepted Him as our Savior and received His forgiveness, we are safe with God and will be a part of His kingdom that He will establish. He will resurrect our bodies from the grave (even if we are but dust by then), making them immortal and our bodies will join our spirits again to live eternally!

Believers now wait in God’s presence in Heaven until the time of their resurrection to enter His Kingdom. The ungodly and unrighteous, those who rejected God, are in the part of Hades/Sheol where they experience suffering. At the final judgment, they will be sent to Gehenna, the Lake of Fire for eternal torment with Satan and his fallen angels (demons).


Now we come back to our original question. Where was Jesus and what He was doing after He died on the cross and before He rose from the dead?

During the waiting period it is somewhat of a mystery. But there are other scriptures that may give us some light.

Jesus Christ was fully God but He was also fully man. He came to experience what we experience except that He did not sin. When He died, He may have gone to Hades/Sheol, the place of the dead, just as all men did. He was sinless yet had taken on the sins of the world for all time. So He experienced death. That was the human part of Him. But He did not stay dead! He rose from the dead and that is the divine part of Him!

Acts 2:22-36 (Contemporary English Version - CEV) (22) Now, listen to what I have to say about Jesus from Nazareth. God proved that he sent Jesus to you by having him work miracles, wonders, and signs. All of you know this. (23) God had already planned and decided that Jesus would be handed over to you. So you took him and had evil men put him to death on a cross. (24) But God set him free from death and raised him to life. Death could not hold him in its power. (25) What David said are really the words of Jesus, "I always see the Lord near me, and I will not be afraid with him at my right side. (26); Because of this, my heart will be glad, my words will be joyful, and I will live in hope. (27) The Lord won't leave me in the grave. I am his holy one, and he won't let my body decay. (28) He has shown me the path to life, and he makes me glad by being near me." (29) My friends, it is right for me to speak to you about our ancestor David. He died and was buried, and his tomb is still here. (30) But David was a prophet, and he knew that God had made a promise he would not break. He had told David that someone from his own family would someday be king. 31) David knew this would happen, and so he told us that Christ would be raised to life. He said that God would not leave him in the grave or let his body decay. (32) All of us can tell you that God has raised Jesus to life! (33) Jesus was taken up to sit at the right side of God, and he was given the Holy Spirit, just as the Father had promised. Jesus is also the one who has given the Spirit to us, and that is what you are now seeing and hearing. (34) David didn't go up to heaven. So he wasn't talking about himself when he said, "The Lord told my Lord to sit at his right side, (35) until he made my Lord's enemies into a footstool for him." (36) Everyone in Israel should then know for certain that God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ, even though you put him to death on a cross.

Matthew 12:38-42 (Easy To Read Version - ERV) Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law answered Jesus. They said, "Teacher, we want to see you do a miracle as a sign from God." Jesus answered, "Evil and sinful people are the ones who want to see a miracle as a sign. But no miracle will be done to prove anything to them. The only sign will be the miracle that happened to the prophet Jonah. Jonah was in the stomach of the big fish for three days and three nights. In the same way, the Son of Man will be in the grave three days and three nights. On the judgment day, you people who live now will be compared with the people from Nineveh, and they will be witnesses who show how guilty you are. Why do I say this? Because when Jonah preached to those people, they changed their lives. And you are listening to someone greater than Jonah, but you refuse to change! "On the judgment day, you people who live now will also be compared with the Queen of the South, and she will be a witness who shows how guilty you are. I say this because she traveled from far, far away to listen to Solomon's wise teaching. And I tell you that someone greater than Solomon is right here, but you won't listen!

We don't know for sure where Jesus was but other scriptures indicate that He went to Sheol, to the righteous dead.

Look at Matthew 12:40 again in the Modern King James Version:   For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the huge fish, so the Son of Man shall be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Psalm 30:3 (MKJV) O Jehovah, You have brought up my soul from the grave; You have kept me alive, so that I should not go down to the Pit.

Ephesians 4:8-10 (MKJV) Therefore He says, "When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive and gave gifts to men." (9) (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? (10) He who descended is the same also as He who ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fill all things.)

If He descended into Sheol, the place of the day, then what did He do there? We know that no one comes to the Father but through Jesus. He is the only gate to a right relationship with the Father. But those who died before Jesus, what happened to them? They went to Sheol. If God knew they had a heart after Him, then their faith would make them righteous where Jesus could tell them the good news, the gospel, in Paradise.

1 Peter 4:3-6 (CEV) You have already lived long enough like people who don't know God. You were immoral and followed your evil desires. You went around drinking and partying and carrying on. In fact, you even worshiped disgusting idols. (4) Now your former friends wonder why you have stopped running around with them, and they curse you for it. (5) But they will have to answer to God, who judges the living and the dead. (6) The good news has even been preached to the dead, so that after they have been judged for what they have done in this life, their spirits will live with God.


In summary, I am NOT a trained scholar with a long list of degrees. But it seems to me that the Bible indicates people went to Sheol where they lived in Paradise or the place of punishment. Jesus died and He went to Sheol to preach the gospel of His victory in His death and resurrection. To those in Paradise, it was the word of life, but, to those in the ungodly place, they were words of condemnation.

Colossians 2:15 (MKJV) Having stripped rulers and authorities, [Jesus] made a show of them publicly, triumphing over them in it.

Revelation 1:17-18 (MKJV) When I saw him, I fell at his feet like a dead person. But he put his right hand on me and said: Don't be afraid! I am the first, the last, (18) and the living one. I died, but now I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys to death and the world of the dead.

So Jesus triumphed over sin and death and He rose in victory!

1 Corinthians 15:55 (MKJV) "O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?"

Satan thought he had taken the Son of God out when Jesus was crucified. But Jesus went to the place of the dead and preached the good news and then He stripped satan of his power and took the keys away from him. Then Jesus arose in victory and triumph over sin and death!

Revelation 7:12 (MKJV) "Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God forever and ever! Amen!"

The Apostles Creed says, “He descended into hell” (translated Hades, that is, the temporary abode of the dead – not the eternal lake of fire). Jesus descended to the realm of the dead to save the righteous souls, such as the Old Testament patriarchs, who died before his crucifixion.

You may not agree with my interpretation but, as Christians, we can agree that no matter what happened during those 3 days, Christ was the victor and provided us with forgiveness, righteousness and eternal life! Maybe the Bible is deliberately vague on those 3 days because it is God's mysterious ways but the end result is salvation through Jesus Christ. Upon Jesus I rest my faith in what He did on the cross and in the resurrection.

After Jesus' death and resurrection, human beings still die. Our bodies go to the grave to be raised when Christ returns. Those who are saved go to Heaven and those who are not, are in the section of darkness and punishment in Sheol/Hades. We live with Christ in Heaven until it is time for Him to return. Upon His return, He resurrects our fleshly bodies from the grave. They are transformed into perfect, immortal bodies and our spirits join our bodies. At the Great Judgment, God looks to see if our names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Jesus writes our names in His book when we are born again. So, as believers, our name is there and we are accepted by God as one of His children and ushered into His Kingdom forever. Those who have rejected Jesus and refused His gift of salvation, face the judgment of eternal Hell. God did not want anyone to go to hell so He provided the way to forgiveness of our sins and eternity in Heaven through accepting His Son, Jesus Christ. It is the only way to be saved but it is open to everyone. There is no need for anyone to go to hell, but we have the freedom of choice and if we choose to reject Jesus Christ, then we suffer the eternal consequences.

Mack Sanford Hiatt was born 2/2/1890 in Davidson County, NC to Alfred Mack Hiatt (DOB 1/14/1848 in NC; DOD 8/3/1934 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC) and Sarah Glendora Spring (DOB 12/21/1851 in NC; DOD 1/25/1922 in High Point, Guilford County, NC). Alfred Mack Hiatt had also married Margaret Albertine Simmerson (DOB 9/17/1872 in Davidson County, NC to John Harrison Simmerson and Mary Ann Wood; DOD 3/20/1962 in Lexington, Davidson County, NC). Mary Ann Wood was the daughter of James William Wood and Sophia Barnes and the Barnes are one of my lines. So Mack Sanford Hiatt is very tenuously attached to the Barnesline (not by blood) and I found him and his family as I was researching the Barnes line.

Alfred Mack Hiatt and Sarah Glendora Spring had 8 children:

1) Emma J. Hiatt (DOB 4/18/1873 in NC; DOD 6/11/1900 in Davidson County, NC) married Samuel Lee Darr (DOB 11/7/1868 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 3/27/1946 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC). S. Lee Darr married 2nd Margaret Emaline Kanoy (DOB 7/12/1867 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 5/15/1951 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC).

2) Minnie Mary Hiatt (DOB 5/21/1876 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 1/1/1959 in Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC) married Charles Alfred Cridlebaugh (DOB 6/6/1868 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 9/26/1899 in Davidson County, NC). They had Anne Banks Cridlebaugh and Charlie Mae Cridlebaugh (both females). She married William Thomas Anderson (DOB 9/9/1862 in High Point, Guilford County, NC; DOD 9/20/1937 in High Point, Guilford County, NC). They had Glennie Alma Anderson. William Thomas Anderson was also married to Minnie Lena Rivers.

3) John William Hiatt (DOB 12/6/1877 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 7/24/1978 in Thoomasville, Davidson County, NC) married Sudie Pearl Lindsay (DOB 6/19/1880 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 1/26/1918 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC) and they had John Wade Hiatt and Grace Winifred Hiatt. He also married Elizabeth "Lizzie" Virginia Payne (DOB 10/24/1897 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 1/9/1992 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC). They had Pauline Almeda Hiatt, Ruus Everett Hiatt, Dorothy Elizabeth Hiatt, Mabel Payne Hiatt, Charles Warren Hiatt, Glennie Louise Hiatt, William Lindley Hiatt, Mary Frances Hiatt, Peggy Virginia Hiatt.

4) Maude Winifred Hiatt (DOB 3/22/1881 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 5/26/1881 in Davidson County, NC).

5) Ruth G. Hiatt (DOB 4/8/1882 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 7/16/1910 in Davidson County, NC) married Walter Cleveland "Cleve" Grimes (DOB 8/18/1887 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 10/19/1958 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC). Walter Cleveland Hiatt also married Lillie Jane Bingham (DOB 10/7/1894 in NC; DOD 5/15/1975 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC).

6) John Spurgeon Hiatt, Sr. (DOB 10/19/1884 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 7/2/1963 in Elkin, Surry County, NC) married Maude Eugenia Jones (DOB 10/19/1888 in NC; DOD 9/4/1985 in Southern Pines, Moore County, NC). They had Joseph Spurgeon Hiatt, Jr., Alfred Mack Hiatt, Ruth E. Hiatt, Anna Faye Hiatt.

7) Bessie Deering Hiatt (DOB 4/25/1887 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 7/20/1957 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC) married Robert Lee Murphy (DOB 10/5/1882 in NC, DOD 4/8/1961 in Thomasville, Davidson County, NC). They had 6 sons: Ivory Murphy, Joe Alfred Murphy, Jessie Murphy, Francis Woodrow Murphy, Cleveland Lee Murphy, Paul Pervy Murphy.

8) Mack Sanford Hiatt (DOB 2/2/1890 in Davidson County, NC; DOD 5/29/1951 in Forsyth County, NC) married 1st Hazel H. Hedgecock (DOB 7/30/1892 in Guilford County, NC; DOD 3/20/1916 in High Point, Guilford County, NC) and 2nd Huron Theresa Stewart (DOB 10/27/1982 in NC, DOD 6/1/1973 in Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC).


1900 U.S. Census of Thomasville, Davidson County, NC, Roll: 1192; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 0039; FHL microfilm: 1241192, Family #265, Lines 28-33, "Alfred M. Hiatt"
Alfred M. Hiatt, Head, W(hite), M(ale), Born Jan, 1848, 52 yrs old, Married 30 yrs, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Farmer, Can read and write, Owns farm free of mortgage, Can read and write
Sarah C. Hiate, Wife, W, F, Born Dec, 1851, 48 yrs old, Married 30 yrs, 8 children with 7 still living, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Can read and write

1910 U.S. Census of High Point Ward 1, Guilford, North Carolina; Roll: T624_1114; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 0116; FHL microfilm: 1375127, Family 258, Lines 96-100, "John M. Johnson"
John M. Johnson, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 31 yrs old (DOB 1879), 1st marriage, Married 12 yrs, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Drayman or grocery store
Prudie B. Johnson, Wife, F, W, 33 yrs old (DOB 1877), 1st marriage, Married 12 yrs, 5 children with 2 still living, Born in NC, , Both parents born in NC, chair bottoms from home
Robiny N. Johnson, Daughter, F, W, 8 yrs old (DOB 1902), Born in NC, Both parents born in NC
James B. Johnson, Son, M, W, 4 yrs old, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC
Mack S. Hiatt, Lodger, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1890), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Mail carrier in rural free delivery

Mack Sanford Hiatt and Hazel H. Hedgecock married 9/20/1914 in Guilford County, NC.

North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011
Name: Hazel H Hedgecock
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1892
Marriage Date: 13 Sep 1914
Marriage Place: Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Father: J H Hedgecock
Mother: Julia E Hedgecock
Spouse: Mack S Hiatt
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Race: White
Spouse Age: 24
Spouse Father: Am Hiatt
Spouse Mother: S G Hiatt
Event Type: Marriage

North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011
Name: Hack S Hiatt
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1890
Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1914
Marriage Place: Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Spouse: Hazel H Hedgecock
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Age: 22
Event Type: Marriage

Poor Hazel Hedgecock Hiatt was killed in a train wreck. Here are the stories I found about the train wreck and her untimely death at the young age of 23 years old on 3/20/1916 in High Point, Guilford County, NC.

Train Wreck, The High Point Enterprise, 3/20/1916, Pg1 and Pg 8
One Person Killed And More Than A Score Are Injured In Train Wreck At Jamestown
The Condition Of Three Is Serious
Only A Fighting Chance For Miss Green, Mr. Carroll and Miss Biggers
Twenty Eight Injured
Southern Train No. 43 Wrecked By Durallmint Freight Cars Early Sunday Evening
As the result of the wrecking of Southern passenger train No. 43 at Jamestown yesterday evening, one person is dead, three are in a most critical condition, and about 24 others are suffering from injuries ranging from slight bruises to broken limbs. Mrs. M.S. Hiatt succumbed to her terrible injuries about 1 o'clock this morning and this afternoon the condition of Miss Mary Green, of Thomasville, and D.C. Carroll, of Oak Hill, Va., was reported as being extremely critical, with just a chance for recovery, while Miss Caroline Biggers, of Thomasville, is also reported to be in a serious condition. This week, which occurred at the Jamestown station just a little after 7 o'clock Sunday evening, was the worst in this section in many years, and those who viewed the disaster can only wonder that the loss of life was not heavier. Cars were piled up, pieces of lumber rammed through the passenger coaches, a baggage car turned over, and all about a mass of evidence of the terrific destruction wrought by the impact of the derailed freight cars as they crashed into the slowly moving passenger train. News of the wreck spread rapidly, a call coming from Jamestown or all of the High Point doctors not only starting the local members of the medical fraternity speeding to the scene, but practically every other automobile in the city was soon eating up the dust covered five miles between here and there. The work of rescue went forward with remarkable speed, and soon the platform and the waiting room of the little station at Jamestown held their capacity of wounded humanity. The crowd was soon augmented by Greensboro people; the doctors arriving first, these followed by a long string of automobiles bearing persons who had friends on the ill-fated train or drawn there through curiosity. The doctors were greatly aided in their care of the injured by the hands of hundreds of willing people, and in a very short time the engine and three baggage and mail cars of No. 43, which had not felt the effect of the freight derailment, started on their way to High Point, bringing eight wounded. Other injured, considered less serious, were hurried here in automobiles, and soon a score or more of persons were under treatment. At the hospital it was seen that there was no chance for Mrs. Hiatt, but in spite of her terrible injuries she clung tenaciously to the weakening thread of life until about 1 o'clock this morning. Grave ears are also entertained for Miss Mary Greene, of Thomasville and today she was pronounced as being probably the most seriously hurt of any now at the hospital. She has a fractured skull and other injuries, and in addition is suffering greatly from shock. It is announced that she has only a fighting chance. D.C. Carroll, of Oak Hill, Va., is also in a most serious condition. He has several deep lacerations on his head and face, and one leg and one arm fractured. He is said to have a fighting chance to recover. The next most seriously injured is Miss Carolina Biggers, of Thomasville, whose left leg is fractures, and it was said that amputation would possibly be necessary. She sustained other injuries. Miss Ethel Johnson, of Jamestown, has a laceration on the back of her head, a lacerated lip, and badly bruised limbs. Leon Street, of Greensboro, has a fracture of both his left arm and left leg. He is expected to recover. James Elliott, of Thomasville, has a long scalp wound, several bruises on the body and is said to be in serious condition, but with the chances of recovery in his favor. A.M. Kester, of Charlotte, had several lacerations on the body, but was able to leave the hospital last night. Frank Norris, a Spencer about 10 or 12 years of age, was injured about the head and body, but not of such a nature as to cause apprehension for his recovery. Miss Mae Cridlebough, of High Point, had her right leg fractures. L.D. Payne of Willowbrook street, sustained injuries about both ankles and a number of severe bruises. His injuries, while not serious are very painful and he is confined to bed. His little four year old daughter, Edythe, who was with him on the train, has had a bad compound fracture of the right leg, about four inches of the bone protruded through the flesh between the knee and hip. J.M. Stephenson, of Ward street, sustained a number of painful bruises and sprains. He is at home. Miss Iola Perryman, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J.E. Perryman, had a remarkable escape from serious and probably fatal injuries. She and her sister, Rozena, were returning from Greensboro, where they had been attending the presentation of "The Holy City," at the State Normal. Miss Iola was sitting between Mrs. Hiatt, who was fatally injured, and Miss Mae Cridlebough, who was seriously hurt, and it is probably due to the fact that her companions received the full force of the impact that Miss Iola escaped. She sustained a number of very painful bruises about the body and legs, but it is believed she will be able to leave her bed in a few days. Miss Clara Blair, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. R.E. Blair, was returning from Guilford college. She had three ribs broken and received a number of painful bruises. It is thought, however, that unless pneumonia or other complications set in she will soon recover. The exact cause of the wreck at Jamestown may never be known. It was either a head-on or a rear-end collision, but resulted from an impact of freight cars from a parallel track, which were derailed, but by what cause has not been determined. The wreck occurred just as No. 43 was pulling out from the Jamestown station, according to passengers. The train was crowded, as is usual on Sundays probably more so yesterday on account of a number of people from here Thomasville and other places attending the performance of "The Holy City" at the State Normal college in Greensbor yesterday. No. 43 was running about 10 minutes late, it is said, and had stopped at Jamestown to take on passengers. Just as the train started out, having moved, according to the passengers, only a few feet, the crash came. Regular freight No. 74 was passing on the northbound track, and just making it's usual good schedule speed. Just as it was passing No. 43, one of the freight cars in some unexplained manner was derailed, plunging into the coaches of the passenger train. The derailed car pulled others after it, and in the twinkling of an eye several freight cars followed the runaway, the cars soon being mashed into a heap of wreckage. Apparently the first car to leave the track was one loaded with lumber, and the impact as it struck the baggage car was such that the latter was turned on it's side, while the lumber loosened bombarded the two following passenger coaches. Behind the lumber car was a tank car which added its weight in making kindling of the frailer obstructions. The first passenger coach had its top staved in, and was given a decided tilt. The second passenger coach struck was crushed almost as though it had been an eggshell, and it was here that the greatest damage was done. The news of the wreck was flashed to High Point and Greensboro, and soon special trains were rushed to Jamestown carrying doctors and stretchers, only the briefest possible time elapsing between the wreck and the time of the arrival of aid from High Point, Greensboro's assistance, owing to the greater distance, arrived a little later. Despite the terrible suffering and the nerve wrecking moments usually attending such disasters, the work of rescue was carried on with speed and efficiency and even the suffering persons showed a remarkable degree of self possession during the trying minutes, apparently being anxious to aid in every way possible those who were trying to relieve them. No. 43 was in charge of one of the Southern's best and oldest men, Arch Rowzie, who only Friday was presented a medal by President Harrison of the Southern, in recognition of his long service with the road. W.L. Finks was conductor, E.C. Elmore was engineer o the freight. The wreck was cleared by 3 o'clock this morning, it is said, to permit traffic to pass through, the Southern wrecking crew doing a fine piece of work. The railroad authorities, realizing the great injury suffered by so many people, have not delayed action on their part in order to find out the cause or responsibility of the wreck. They were on the ground promptly last night and this morning to render every conceivable aid to the injured and to the friends and family of the injured, and to provide all medical attention and other services. It is believed that when the injured are physically able they stand ready to negotiate an adjustment with each and every one injured.

Mrs. Hiatt Made A Valiant Fight
Succumbed At 1 O'clock This Morning To Injuries Received In Jamestown Wreck
Was Returning Home
Funeral Will Be Held At Wesley Memorial Wednesday Morning at 11 O'Clock
After putting up one of the most valiant fights for life that her physicians had ever witnessed, Mrs. Hazel Hiatt, age 22, the young wife of Mack S. Hiatt, of Morris street, this city, died in the High Point hospital at 1 o'clock this morning from injuries received in the wreck of Southern passenger train No. 43 at Jamestown last evening. Mrs. Hiatt, known from the very first to be the worst of the more than score who were badly injured in last night's wreck, was given the closest attention by the physicians. At the scene of the wreck it was seen that her injuries were just about as serious as could possibly be. Mrs. Hiatt was found to be suffering with a fracture of both legs, a crushed hip, and broken arms; her face was cut with glass and there were internal injuries. So badly was her little body crushed and mangled by the awful crush of timbers which resulted when the lumber car of the freight crashed sideways into the passenger car in which she was a passenger, that the physciain would hardly find a spot on her body to which to inject the hypodermic. The injured lady was placed on the express car with a half dozen of the others who were more seriously hurt. Her husband, Mack S. Hiatt, reached the scene soon after information of the wreck reached High Point. He and W. E. Burton were at her side all the times while the slowly moving cars of sufferers made its way from Jamestown to High Point. It is said that Mrs. Hiatt's first words after the crash signified that she realized the seriousness of her injuries. Mrs. Hiatt was the daughter of John Henry Hedgecock, who lives a little more than two miles north of High Point. She was born at the home place a little over 23 years ago. For a dozen years or more Mrs. Hiatt has been a member of Wesley Memorial church. Her friends assert that the first thoughts of her life were toward her church. Mrs. Hiatt's mother has been dead for a number of years. She has two brothers, Ray of Royal Lynne, Conn., and Basil, of High Point. Ray has been notified and it is expected that he will come at once. In September, 1914, she married Mack S. Hiatt, and they lived on Morris street in a new home that they built just after their marriage. Mr. Hiatt is a carrier on R.F.D. No. 5, out of this city. Their married life has been a most happy and beautiful one. Mrs. Hiatt, her half sister, Miss Charlotte Mae Criddlebaugh, Miss Iola Perryman, Miss Rozena Perryman, and Miss Treva Cook, all went to Greensboro on No. 36 to witness "The Holy City" a the State Normal. Mrs. Hiatt was sitting next to the window, Miss Iola Perryman in the middle of Miss Cridlebough next to the aisle in one seat and Miss Rozena Perryman and Miss Cook were sitting together a few seats behind them. Just what happened except an awful crash none o the young ladies can tell. Miss Cridlebaugh is in the hospital suffering with a fracture of the right leg and Miss Iola Perryman is badly brusied and suffering from a nervous shock at the home of her parents, Mr. and Mrs. J.A. Perryman. Although she was between the two, one of whom was killed and the other injured badly, she escaped without serious result. Each of the four young ladies who went to Greensboro with Mrs. Hiatt are almost protrated with grief this morning. Miss Cook is at her home at John Henry Hedgecock's, her step-father, and since the wreck has not seen Mrs. Hiatt. Information from her this morning is that she has been prostrated ever since hearing of Mrs. Hiatt's fatality. Both of the Misses Perryman are also suffering from the shock of the wreck, coupled with the news of the death of their friend and companion. The funeral services over the remains of the late Mrs. Hiatt will be held Wednesday morning at 11 o'clock from Wesley Memorial church, and Dr. G.T. Rowe, the pastor, will conduct the services, being assisted by Rev. C.C. Stubbins. The following gentleman will be pallbearers: Active, R.E. Blair, C.J. Clapp, J.J. Farriss, Elmer Spencer, John Sicelof and A.E. Futrell; honorary, J.C. Payne, Levi Hayworth, J.E. Perryman, C. Dunbar, J.W. Kearns and W.C. Tucker Detail

Obituary of Hazel Hedgecock Hiatt, The High Point Enterprise, 3 22 1916, Pg 1 and Pg 5
Funeral Today of Mrs. Hazel Hiatt Much Sorrow Expressed Throughout The City Over The Untimely Death Of This Lady
Beautiful Tributes Paid
Services Held At Wesley Memorial Church
Attended By Hundreds Of People
Beautiful tributes were paid to the memory of the late Mrs. Hazel Hiatt, the young wife of Mack S. Hiatt, who "succumbed to the shafts of death, but at the same time overcame the sharpness of it," by her pastor, Rev. Dr. Gilber T. Rowe, and a former pastor, Rev. J.E. Thompson, now of Asheboro, at the funeral services which were held from Wesley Memorial church at 11 o'clock this morning and attended by several hundred of her relatives and friends. Mrs. Hiatt died early Monday morning as a result of the wrecking of Southern train No. 43 at Jamestown Sunday evening about 7 o'clock. The services this morning were very simple. Several familiar hymns were sung by the choir, among them being "Asleep in Jesus" and "Safe in the Arms of Jesus." Rev. R.C. Stubbies, of Mechanicsville, then read the scripture lesson, and Dr. Rowe led in prayer, asking divine comfort to the sorrowing relatives and praying that the people assembled might realize the uncertainty of death. The deceased was the daughter of John Henry and Julia Hedgecock, and was born at the old home place two miles from High PointJuly 30, 1892. She was the only daughter and the care of the household was placed upon her after her mother's death nine years ago, October 27, 1914, she joined Wesley Memorial church. She was educated at DeLane academy and a private school in Baltimore, and on September 20, 1914, became the wife of Mack S. Hiatt and moved into the home on Morris Street. "She was a model wife of a model home," said Dr. Rowe in his short tribute this morning. "From early childhood she loved the church and the things the church stands for. She was a lover of all that is good and true," he continued, "and while the strains of the 'Holy City' were still lingering in her ears she was called by death. She had no warning; she needed none. Although her call came suddenly, she was prepared to go." Rev. J.E. Thompson paid a beautiful tribute to the girlhood life of the deceased. He had visited her home several years ago and declared her to be "beautiful in person and character." Another home the preacher had just visited, that home where she "had dispensed brightness and given joy," and where the "light has now gone out." It was a touching comparison the speaker made of the life of Mrs. Hiatt and that of a beautiful white rose. "I passed the rose one day and then the next day I noticed it was gone. I found that it had been gathered and was adorning the mansion up on the hill. Her life is today adorning God's mansion," concluded the speaker. Following the short services interment was made at Oakwood cemetery.

NC Death Certificate #417, Registration District #41-2279, Certificate #48, Mrs. Hazel Hiatt, DOD 3/20/1916 in High Point, Guilford County, NC
Usual residence: 119 Boulward, High Point, Guilford County, NC
Female, White, Married, DOB 7/30/1892 in Guilford County, NC
Occupation: Housework
Education: College
Father: J.H. Hedgecock, born in Guilford County, NC
Mother: Julia Lassiter, born in Suffolk County, VA
Informant: Joe Hiatt, Winston-Salem, NC
DOD 3/20/1916 at 1:30am
Cause o death: "Shock due to crushed pelvis, fract. Rt leg, L Femur, Rt Humorous, General Contusions Produced by R.R. Reck" duration 6 hrs
Buried: 3/22/1916 in High Point, NC

North Carolina, Death Indexes, 1908-2004
Name: Hazel Hiatt
Race: White
Age: 23
Date of Birth: 1893
Date of Death: 20 Mar 1916
Death County: Guilford
Death State: North Carolina
Source Vendor: NC State Archives. North Carolina Deaths, 1908-67

Findagrave.com
Hazel H. Hiatt
DOB 7/30/1892
DOD 3/20/1916
Inscription: Hazel H. Hiatt, wife of M.S. Hiatt, "She believes and sleeps in Jesus
Burial: Oakwood Cemetery, High Point, Guilford County, NC, USA, Plott: Oakwood Municipal
Created by Donna
Record added: 5/23/2007
Find A Grave Memorial #19501445



Mack Sanford Hiatt then married Huron Theresa Stewart on 6/27/1917 in Forsyth County, NC. She was born 10 /27/1892 in NC.

North Carolina, Marriage Index, 1741-2004
Name: Huron Theresa Stewart
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1894
Age: 23
Race: White
Spouse: Mack Sanford T Hiatt
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Age: 27
Spouse Race: White
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1917
Marriage County: Forsyth
Marriage State: North Carolina

North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011
Name: Mack Sanford Hiatt
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1890
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1917
Marriage Place: Forsyth, North Carolina, USA
Father: A M Hiatt
Mother: S D Hiatt
Spouse: Huron Theresa Stewart
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Race: White
Spouse Age: 23
Spouse Father: John R Stewart
Spouse Mother: Ora Bell Stewart
Event Type: Marriage

1920 U.S. Census of 123 Steel St,High Point Ward 2, Guilford County, North Carolina; Roll: T625_1302; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 157; Image: 170, Lines 19-20, "Mack S. Hiatt"
Mack S. Hiatt, Head, Rent, M(ale), W(hite), 35 yrs old (DOB 1885), Married, Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Mail carrier
Huron Hiatt, Wife, F, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1896), Married, Can read and write, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Teacher of graded students

1930 U.S. Census of 203 William Drive, High Point, Guilford County, North Carolina; Roll: 1695; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0049; Image: 627.0; FHL microfilm: 2341429, Family #14, Lines 49-50, "Mack Hiatt"
Mack S. Hiatt, Head, Owns home valued at $20,000, Owns radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 40 yrs old (DOB 1890), Married at age 27 yrs old, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, agent automobile, Can read and write
Huron Hiatt, Wife, F, W, 31 yrs old (DOB 1899), Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Can read and write

1940 U.S. Census of 620 Arbor Rd, Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, North Carolina; Roll: T627_2909; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 34-46, Family #185, Lines 61-62, "Mac S. Hiatt" (sic, Mack S. Hiatt)
Mac S. Hiatt, M(ale), W(hite), 50 yrs old (DOB 1890), Married, Attended college 4 yrs, Born in NC, Lived in the same place in 1935, Salesman retail automobile dealer
Huron E. Hiatt, F, W, 38 yrs old (DOB 1892), Married, Attended college 2 yrs, Born in NC, Lived in the same place in 1935

Mack Hiatt died 5/29/1951 in Winston Salem City Memorial Hospital, Forsyth County, NC.

NC Death Certificate #13426, Registration District #34-95, Mack Sanford Hiatt, DOD 5/29/1951 in City Memorial Hospital, Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC
Usual residence: 634 Arbor Rd, Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC
Male, White, Married, DOB 2/2/1890 in NC, 61 yrs old
Owner and Operator of Automobile Agency
Father: Alfred Mack Hiatt, Mother: Glendoir Spurgeon (sic), Informant: Mrs. M.S. Hiatt, Winston-Salem, NC
Date of death: 5/29/1951 at 1:10am
Cause of death: Cerebral hemorrhage (duration 32 hrs) due to cardio vascular disease (duration 4-5 yrs)
Buried Kernersville Moravian, Forsyth County, NC, 5/30/1951

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Mack Sanford Hiatt
SSN: 243-09-****
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1890
Birth Place: Davidson CO, North Carolina
Death Date: 29 May 1951
Claim Date: 12 Jun 1951
Type of Claim: Death Claim
Notes: 10 Dec 1976: Name listed as MACK SANFORD HIATT

North Carolina, Death Indexes, 1908-2004
Name: Mack S Hiatt
Race: White
Age: 61
Date of Birth: 1890
Date of Death: 29 May 1951
Death County: Forsyth
Death State: North Carolina
Source Vendor: NC State Archives. North Carolina Deaths, 1908-67

The Gastonia Gazette, Gastonia, Gaston County, NC, 5/30/1951, Pg 3, "Automobile Pioneer Passes At Winston"
Winston-Salem, May 30-Mack Sanford Hiatt, pioneer automobile dealer and president and owner of Hiatt's, Inc., here, died at 1:10 a.m. Tuesday at a local hospital. He had been in declining health for some time and seriously ill since Sunday.
Hiatt, 61, was former branch of the Winston-Salem branch of the North Carolina Automobile Dealers Association and recently was elected a member of the Dodge dealers advisory council of North Carolina, South Carolina and Virginia.

The High Point, High Point, Guilford County, NC, 5/31/1951, Pg 2, "Mack S. Hiatt"
Winston-Salem, May 31-Funeral services for Mack Sanford Hiatt, 61, pioneer automobile dealer, were held at his home here, 634 Arbor Road, Wednesday afternoon at 3:30 o'clock. Reverends R. Gordon Spaugh, D.D. J.C. Hughes, E.A. Holton, and Clayton Persons officiated. Burial was in the Moravian Graveyard at Kernersville. Mr. Hiatt, president and owner of Hiatt's, died at 1:10 a.m. Tuesday in a local hospital. He became seriously ill last Sunday. He had been in the automobile business for 32 years, and a Dodge dealer since 1941. After connections with automobile agencies in High Point, Thomasville, Greensboro and Durham, he came to Winston-Salem in 1935. Born in Davidson County on Feb. 2, 1890, he was the son of the late Alfred Mack and Glendoir Spurgeon Hiatt. He was a nephew of Dr. J. Sandford Spurgeon, late of Hillsboro. He received his education at Trinity College. Mr. Hiatt was a mamber of Home Moravian Church, Forsyth Country Club and the Masonic Order; he was former president of the Winston-Salem branch of the N.C. Automobile Dealers Association and was recently elected a member of the Dodge Dealers Advisory Council of the Carolinas and Virginia. He was twice married: the first time to the late Hazel Hedgecock Hiatt; his second marriage, in 1927, was to Miss Huron Stuart. Survivors include the widow, Mrs. Huron S. Hiatt; two sisters, Mrs. W.T. Anderson of High Point and Mrs. Robert J. Murphy of Thomasville; two brothers, J.William Hiatt of Thomasville and Dr. Joseph S. Hiatt of Elkin; and a niece, Elizabeth Stuart Hedgecock of Kernersville.

Findagrave.com
Mack Sanford Hiatt
DOB 2/2/1890
DOD 5/29/1951
Parents: A. Mack and Glendore Spurgeon Hiatt
Burial: Kernersville Moravian God's Acre, Kernersville, Forsyth County, NC, USA
Created by: Ann Ono Mouse
Record added: May 26, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial #52887260

NC Death Certificate #21537, Registration District #34-95, Local #1030, Huron Stuart Hiatt, DOD 6/1/1973 in Forsyth Memorial Hospital, Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC
Usual residence: 2920 Club Park Rd, Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC
Female, White, Widowed, DOB 10/27/1891 in NC, 81 yrs old
Occupation: Housewife
SS#239-38-****
Father: John Robert Stuart, Mother: Arabelle Hendrix, Informant: Mrs. Elizabeth Sparks, 225 S. Main St, Kernersville, NC, Niece
DOD 6/1/1973 at 3:10pm
Cause of death: acute pulmonary edema due to myocardial infarction, other significant condition was hypertension
Buried: 6/3/1973 in Kernersville Moravian Graveyard, Forsyth County, NC

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Huron Hiatt
SSN: 239-38-****
Last Residence:
27104 Winston Salem, Forsyth, North Carolina, USA
BORN: 27 Oct 1892
Died: Jun 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: North Carolina (Before 1951)

Revelation 22:1-5 (MKJV) And he showed me a pure river of Water of Life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.  (2)  In the midst of its street, and of the river, from here and from there, was the Tree of Life, which bore twelve fruits, each yielding its fruit according to one month. And the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.  (3)  And every curse will no longer be; but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His servants will serve Him.  (4)  And they will see His face, and His name will be in their foreheads.  (5)  And there will be no night there. And they need no lamp, or light of the sun; for the Lord God gives them light. And they will reign forever and ever.

Another question to ask ourselves is do we exude the water of the Word? As I said in the beginning we must ingest water daily in order to live and our bodies naturally exude water through sweat, urine or exhalation. Are you taking in the Water of the Word on a regular basis? Are you exuding the Word in your thoughts and speech? Something to think about isn't it? Are our words full of Jesus? Full of hope, full of truth, full of wisdom, full of encouragement, always pointing to God? Or is our speech full of curses, gossip, slander, despair, hopelessness, anger?

James 3:2-11 (ERV)  We all make many mistakes. A person who never said anything wrong would be perfect. Someone like that would be able to control their whole body too.  (3)  We put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us. With these bits we can control their whole body.  (4)  It is the same with ships. A ship is very big, and it is pushed by strong winds. But a very small rudder controls that big ship. And the one who controls the rudder decides where the ship will go. It goes where he wants it to go.  (5)  It is the same with our tongue. It is a small part of the body, but it can boast about doing great things. A big forest fire can be started with only a little flame.  (6)  The tongue is like a fire. It is a world of evil among the parts of our body. It spreads its evil through our whole body and starts a fire that influences all of life. It gets this fire from hell.  (7)  Humans have control over every kind of wild animal, bird, reptile, and fish, and they have controlled all these things.  (8)  But no one can control the tongue. It is wild and evil, full of deadly poison.  (9)  We use our tongues to praise our Lord and Father, but then we curse people who were created in God's likeness.  (10)  These praises and curses come from the same mouth. My brothers and sisters, this should not happen.  (11)  Do good water and bad water flow from the same spring? Of course not.

Bernice Lemond Harris was born About 1913 in Union County, SC to Edward Boyd Harris (DOB 5/23/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/1/1930 in Union County, SC) and Ida Mae Shaw (DOB 8/24/1882 in Rockingham, Richmond County, NC; DOD 6/10/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). She was the 4th of 6 children and the only girl!

1920 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T625_1713; Page:  7B; Enumeration District:  144; Image:  931, Lines 62-70, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Head, Rents home, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Married, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Stationary Engineer
Ida Harris, Wife, F, W, 37 yrs old (DOB 1883), Married, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC (1910 Census says Ida was born in NC, Father born in England and Mother born in Maryland)
Minna Harris (sic, should be James Minor Harris and looks like Minor but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Minna Harris), Daughter
(sic.?), F (sic, ?), W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Mill Laborer
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 10 yrs old (DOB 1910), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1913), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Dee C. Harris (sic, should be Gene Carrol "G.C." Harris but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Dee C. Harris), Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1915), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1917), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Lizzie Shaw, Boarder, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC

1930 U.S. Census of Railroad Ave, Glenn Springs, Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  2215; Page:  6A; Enumeration District:  23; Image:  338.0, Lines 6-18, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Rents house at $9/months, Owned radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old (DOB 1878), Married at age 26 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police for cotton mill
Ida May Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Can read and write, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Weaver at cotton mill
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Burnice Harris (sic), Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1913), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
G. Boyd Harris (sic, should be Gene Carroll "G.C." Harris), Son, M, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1915), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Run drawings at cotton mill
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1917), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1906), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1925), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Moulder at iron foundary
Feri Harris (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1903), Married at age 22 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in England, Mother born in SC, Housekeeper for private family
James B. Harris, Grandson, M, W, 1 yrs old (DOB 1929), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married at age 20 yrs old (DOM 1928), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge Harris, Daughter-in-law, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married at age 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Drawing in at cotton mill
Hellen Harris (sic), Granddaughter, 1 yr 7/12 mos old (DOB 1928), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lizzie Shaw, Sister-in-law, F, W, 59 yrs old (DOB 1871), Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Spooler at cotton mill

Bernice marries Jesse James Warren, aka Jessie James Warren, Jess Warren.

Jesse Warren was born 3/31/1908 in SC to Joseph M. Warren (DOB 5/15/1866 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 7/2/1919 in Saluda County, SC) and Carrie Anna Busby (aka Corrie Anna Busby) (DOB 9/16/1871 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 2/19/1963 in Waterloo, Laurens County, SC). He was one of 9 children, 4 boys and 5 girls.

Bernice and Jess Warren had a daughter, Jessie Mae Warren in 1936. But one day Jess Warren told his wife he was going to the store and never came back.


1940 U.S. Census of 168 Railroad Avenue, Buffalo, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: T627_3843; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 44-24, Lines 65-60, "Ida M. Harris"
Ida M. Harris, Head, Rents home for $6, F(emale), W(hite), 57 yrs old (DOB 1883), Widowed, Attended school thru 4th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935
G.C. Boyd Harris (sic), Son, M, W, 25 yrs old (DOB 1915), Married, Attended school thru 6th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Spare hand in cotton mill
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter-in-law (sic, should be daughter), F, W, 26 yrs old (DOB 1914), Married, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Battey Filler (sic) in cotton mill
Leo W. Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1918), Single, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Cabler in cotton mill
Jessie M. Warren, Granddaughter, F, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1937), Born in SC

There is no longer a 168 Railroad St. But here is Railroad St as compared to the Monarch Mill where Bernice worked.

Jess Warren next married 2nd Reba McCormick. Reba McCormick as born 7/6/1916 in Saluda County, SC to Walter McCormick.

1940 U.S. Census of Road 250, Saluda County, South Carolina; Roll: T627_3836; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 41-4, Family #223, Lines 46-50, "Fletcher Padgett"Fletcher Padgett married Jess Warren's sister, Pauline "Polly" Warren.
Fletcher Padgett, Head, Owns home valued at $600.00, M(ale), W(hite), 51 yrs old (DOB 1889), Married, Attended school through 4th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Farmer
Pauline Padgett, Wife, F, W, 44 yrs old (DOB 1896), Married, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in the same place in 1935
Jessie Warren, Brother-in-law, M, W, 36 yrs old (DOB 1904), Married, Attended school thru 1st grade, Born in SC, Lived in Saluda County, SC in 1935, Laborer in lumber mill, Income $400.00
Reby Warren, Sister-in-law, F, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1916), Married, Never attended school, Born in SC, Lived in Saluda County, SC in 1935
Claude Warren, Nephew, M, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1933), Single, Attends school, Attended thru 1st grade, Born in SC, Lived in Saluda County, SC in 1935

Reba Warren died 2/8/1947 in Batesburg, Saluda County, SC of uremia due to kidney infection. She was only 30 yrs old.

SC Death Certificate #02058, Registration District #3900, Registrar's #2A, Reba Warren, DOD 2/8/1947 in Batesburg, Saluda County, NC
Female, White, Married to Jess Warren, 37 yrs old, DOB 7/6/1916 in Saluda County, SC, 30 yrs old
Occupation: Housewife
Father: Walter McCormick, born in Saluda County, SC
Mother: Doan Jones (sic), born in Saluda County, SC
Informant: Jess Warren, Batesburg, SC
DOD 2/8/1947
Cause of death: Uremia due to kidney infection
Buried: 2/9/1947 in Clydes Chapel Methodist

Findagrave.com
Reba McCormick Warren
Birth: 1916
Death: 1947
Note: Our Saluda County Ancestors, Vol. II, p. 7.
Burial: Clydes Chapel Southern Methodist Cemetery, Saluda County, South Carolina, USA
Created by: Buddy
Record added: Aug 05, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 74464114

Then Jess Warren married wife number 3, Johnnie Mell Howington. Johnnie Mell Howington was born 7/17/1919 in Georgia. She had married 1st, Samuel Patterson Pressley (DOB 5/22/1917 in SC; DOD 7/1987 in Greenwood County, SC). They had a son named Truman Eugene Pressley. But then Johnnie Howington Pressley married Jess Warren and Samuel Patterson Pressley married Clara Ashley.

Jess Warren had other children but I'm only concerned with Bernice Lemond Harris who is related to my husband's line. Bernice was the sister of my husband's direct ancestor, Clyde Harris.

Bernice Lemond Harris Warren did not remarry. She died 7/28/1990 in Union County, SC.

The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 7/29/1990, Pg 20
Bernice H. Warren
Union-Bernice Harris Warren, 78, of Route 3, Hawkins Road, died July 28, 1990 at Wallace Thomson Hospital after an extended illness.
She was retired from Monarch Mill and was a member of First Baptist Church and the Ladies Sunday School Class.
Surviving is a daughter, Jessie Mae W. Henderson of Union.
Services: 4 p.m. Monday at S.R. Holcombe Funeral Chapel, Union, with burial in Wesley's Chapel United Methodist Church Cemetery.
Visitation: 7 to 9 p.m. Sunday at S.R. Holcombe Funeral Home, Union.
The family is at the home of Jessie M. Henderson, Route 3, Hawkins Road, Union.



Jess Warren's 3rd wife, Johnnie Mell Warren died 7/24/1987 in Greenwood, SC. Jess Warren died 6/21/1990 in Greenwood, Greenwood County, SC.

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name:Jessie J. Warren
SSN:247-09-****
BORN:31 Mar 1908
Died:21 Jun 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (Before 1951)


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In the 1900's, alcoholism, family violence, and saloon-based political corruption prompted activists to crusade against alcohol and the manufacture and sale of alcohol. They thought it would be a cure all for the ill of society and weaken political corruption. On 10/28/1919, Congress passed the Volstead Act, aka the National Prohibition Act, over President Woodrow Wilson's veto. The act gave legal definition of what was intoxicating liquors and set penalties for manufacture. Although the Volstead Act prohibited the sale of alcohol, the federal government lacked resources to enforce it. By the terms of the amendment, the country went dry one year later, on 1/17/1920. In 1933, the 21st Amendment to the Constitution was passed and ratified, ending national Prohibition. After the repeal of the 18th Amendment, some states continued Prohibition by maintaining statewide temperance laws.(Info from Wikipedia)

Joseph Warren is not related to my husband or I. I came across his story while trying to find his son, Jessie James Warren who married INTO the Harris line. The family was fairly difficult to untangle and it took a week's work to get what I've gotten so I thought I would share it here in case other descendants could use it.

Joseph Warren was born 5/1866 in SC to Jesse Warren (DOB Abt 1813 in SC; DOD ? in Lexington County, SC) and Sarah "Sallie" Gossett (DOB Abt 1822 in SC; DOD 2/14/1915 in Saluda County, SC). I think Joseph was the youngest of 9 children: William Warren, Francis Marion Warren, Susan Warren, H. M. Warren, James W. Warren, Nancy Warren, Christopher Columbus Warren, Arthur Artemis Milledge Warren and Joseph Warren.

1870 U.S. Census of Gilbert Hollow, Lexington County, South Carolina; Roll: M593_1502; Page: 339A; Image: 238216; Family History Library Film: 553001, Family #327, Line 40, next page, Lines 1- 8, "Jesse Warren"
Jesse Warren, 57 yrs old (DOB 1813), M(ale), W(hite), Farm Hand, Born in Lexington County, SC
Sally Warren, 48 yrs old (DOB 1822), F, W, Keeping house, Born in Lexington County, SC
Susan Warren, 18 yrs old (DOB 1852), F, W, Keeping house, Born in Lexington County, SC
Marion Warren, 16 yrs old (DOB 1854), M, W, Farm hand, Born in Lexington County, SC
James Warren, 14 yrs old (DOB 1856), M, W, Born in Lexington County, SC
Nancy Warren, 11 yrs old (DOB 1859), F, W, Born in Lexington County, SC
Columbus Warren, 8 yrs old (DOB 1862), M, W, Born in Lexington County, SC
Arthur Warren, 6 yrs old (DOB 1864), M, W, Born in Lexington County, SC
Jos Warren, 4 yrs old (DOB 1866), M, W, Born in Lexington County, SC

1880 U.S. Census of  Gilbert Hollow, Lexington County, South Carolina; Roll: 1234; Family History Film: 1255234; Page: 419B; Enumeration District: 130, Family #81, Lines 43-49, "Jessey Warren" (sic)
Jessey Warren, W(hite), M(ale), 66 yrs old (DOB 1814), Head, Married, Farming, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Sarah Warren, W, F, 50 yrs old (DOB 1830), Wife, Married, Keeping house, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Susan Warren, W, F, 26 yrs old (DOB 1854), Daughter, Single, Works, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Nancy Warren, W, F, 20 yrs old (DOB 1860), Daughter, Single, Works on farm, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Cannot read or write
Columbus Warren, W, M, 15 yrs old (DOB 1855), Son, Single, Works on farm, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Cannot read of write
Arthur Warren, W, M, 16 yrs old (DOB 1854), Son, Single, Works on farm, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Joseph Warren, W, M, Son, 14 yrs old (DOB 1856), Son, Single, Works on farm, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write

In 1886, Joseph Warren married Carrie Anna Busby (aka Corrie Anna Busby). Carrie Anna Busby was born 9/16/1871 in SC to William Busby and Susan Whittle. She and her sister were living with her maternal grandparents in the 1880 U.S. Census.

Joseph Warren and Carrie Anna Busby had 9 children:

1) Mary Anna Warren (DOB 10/15/1890 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 4/16/1976 in Atlanta, Fulton County, GA) married 1st Charles Perry Humphries (DOB 7/1/1890 in SC; DOD 12/29/1950 in Alameida County, CA). They had Lucy Humphries, Lizzie Humphries, James Burley Humphrey, Marvin Humphrey, John Bailey Humphries, Charlie Carson Humphries, Grady Humphries, Sadie Humphries, Leroy Humphries, Josie Humphries, Betty Ann Humphries. She married 2nd Daniel Roland.

2) Lucy Warren (DOB 3/1894 in SC; DOD ? in ? ) married William Oliver Martin (DOB 5/1870 in SC; DOD 2/21/1927 in Richland County, SC). They had Ruth Oliver Martin. William O. Martin had been married to Mattie Dunlap too and they had: Ethel Martin, William Albert E. Martin, Claude Martin, Willie May Martin, Anna Bell Martin, Cora Lee Martin.

3) Carrie Warren (DOB 3/22/1895 in SC; DOD 12/29/1979 in ? ) married 1st Benjamin Tilman Maroney (DOB 9/1/1891 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 2/5/1930 in Augusta, Richmond County, GA). They had Benjamin Franklin Maroney. She married 2nd James Milton Dowd.

4) Pauline "Polly" Warren (DOB 10/22/1896 in SC; DOD 10/1987 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married Fletcher Louis Padgett (DOB 7/30/1877 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 2/17/1953 in Richland County, SC).

5) Joseph "Joe" M. Warren (DOB 3/25/1899 in SC; DOD 10/3/1968 in Saluda, Saluda County, SC) married Katie McCormick (DOB 12/16/1919 in SC; DOD 11/3/1987 in Leesville, Lexington County, SC). They had Leon Warren, Thomas "Tommy" N. Warren and Tony Warren.

6) Christopher Columbus "Lum" Warren (DOB 12/17/1900 in SC; DOD 8/1968 in Hodges, Greenwood County, SC) married Mamie Davis (DOB 7/24/1905 in SC; DOD 10/1973 in Ware Shoals, Greenwood County, SC). They had Enoree Warren, Louise Warren, Roosevelt Warren. Pauline Warren, Darrell Warren.

7) Mike Webster Warren (DOB 6/25/1904 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 7/1979 in Joanna, Laurens County, SC) married Bessie Goff (DOB 1/26/1913 in Saluda County, SC; DOD 4/10/1964 in SC). They had Sarah Warren, E. Webster Warren, Ruus Warren, Betty Sue Warren, Margaret Warren, Shirley Ann Warren, Hattie Jean Warren, Christine Warren.

8) Jesse James Warren (aka Jessie James Warren, Jess Warren) (DOB 3/31/1908 in SC; DOD 6/21/1990 in SC) married 1st Bernice Lemond Harris (DOB Abt 1913 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/28/1990 in Union County, SC). They had Jessie Mae Warren. He married 2nd Reba McCormick (DOB 7/6/1916 in SC; DOD 2/8/1947 in Saluda County, SC). He married 3rd Johnnie Mell Howington (DOB 7/17/1919 in GA; DOD 7/24/1987 in Greenwood, Greenwood County, SC). She had been married 1st to Samuel Patterson Pressley (1917-1987).

9) Mary Ellen Warren (DOB 7/31/1913 in SC; DOD 12/17/1986 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married Barney F. McCarty.

1900 U.S. Census of  No 2 Township, Saluda County, South Carolina; Roll: 1540; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0104; FHL microfilm: 1241540, Family #16, Lines 77-88, "Joseph Warren"
Joseph Warren, Head, W(hite), M(ale), Born May, 1856, 34 yrs old, Married 14 yrs (DOM 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farmer, Can read and write, Owns farm free of mortgage
Carrie Anna Warren, Wife, W, F, Born Oct, 1873, 26 yrs old, Married 14 yrs, Had 6 children with 5 still living, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Mary Anna Warren, Daughter, W, F, Born Oct, 1890, 9 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lucy Warren, Daughter, W, F, Born Mar, 1894, 6 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Corrie Warren, Daughter, W, F, Born Mar, 1895, 5 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Polly Warren, Daughter, W, F, Born Oct, 1896, 3 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Joseph Warren, Son, W, M, Born Mar, 1899, 1 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

1910 U.S. Census of Township 2, Saluda County, South Carolina; Roll: T624_1467; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 0109; FHL microfilm: 1375480, Family #121, Lines 28-34, "Joe M. Warren"
Joe M. Warren, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 48 yrs old (DOB 1882), Married 24 yrs (DOB 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Born in SC, Farmer, Can read and write
Carry A. Warren, Wife, F, W, 38 yrs old (DOB 1892), Married 24 yrs, 9 children with 8 still living, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Lucy Warren, Daughter, F, W, 18 yrs old (DOB 1892), Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Carrie Warren, Daughter, F, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1895), Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Polly Warren, Daughter, F, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1897), Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Joe W. Warren, Son, M, W, 11 yrs old (DOB 1899), Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Columbus Warren, Son, M, W, 9 yrs old (DOB 1901), Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Mike Warren, Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1905), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Jessie Warren, Son, M, W, 2 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write


Now for the tragic killing of Joseph Warren. There are two sides to the story and I was very glad to find both sides represented in newspaper articles.

The Aiken Standard, Aiken, SC, 7/9/1919, Pg 1, Vol 49, No 28, "Fight To Death In Liquor Raid" Revenue Officer Kills Man In Saluda County
Joseph Warren Dies In Duel With J.G. Fanning-Large Still Captured
(Columbia State)
Joseph M. Warren, Saluda County farmer, who lives about three miles from Batesburg, was shot and almost instantly killed yesterday in a fight with revenue officers and a State constable, who had seized a still in Warren's home. Before Warren was killed he shot and seriously wounded J.G. Fanning, revenue officer, with headquarters in Columbia. Mr. Fanning was brought to Columbia Hospital.
Wednesday afternoon Revenue Officers J.G. Fanning, T.G. Coleman and C.A. Rector visited the Warren home and explained their mission. They were invited to enter the house and conduct a search for a still. The officers located an outfit with the exception of a cap. Warren was placed under arrest and a member of the family told the officers where they could find the missing cap. Warren and Rector remained in the house and the other officers went in search of other materials.
Warren, it is said, made some pretext to get to his room. Rector noticed the man as he advanced toward a window and hollered, "Look out." Fanning was close to the window and pitched to the ground when a pistol shot rang out. Another shot from Warren's gun missed the mark and Fanning began firing. He shot five times and Warren fell about 12 feet from where he lay. Warren died in about five minutes. Fanning emptied a 38 calibre Smith and Wesson while Warren used a 45 caliber Colt.
The first shot from Warren's revolver entered Fanning's hip from the rear and the shock disabled him instantly. He pitched to the ground, pulled his gun and fired as he rested on his side.
The officers picked up the wounded officer and rushed him to Batesburg where everything possible was done to relieve his suffering. Last night he was brought to Columbia attended by a trained nurse and taken to the Columbia Hospital. The injury is serious but not necessarily fatal. Fanning was suffering from nausea when taken from the train. A large number of Columbia officers met the injured officer. Deputy Coleman and Fanning exhibited coolness and bravery in this fight with Warren. The men were about six feet apart when Warren opened fire and both men lay about 12 feet apart when the firing ceased.
The raiding party found five shotguns and two rifles in Warren's house and had located a 60 gallon still in the barn when the shooting commenced.
Government agents and State constables have been actively engaged in raiding premises in the State where parties were suspected of owning and operating stills. The officers have made many arrests following the seizure of a large number of stills without exchanging shots or engaging in scuffles. The shooting yesterday surprised the men, but they were prepared or eventualities.
No arrests were made yesterday and the officers came to Columbia with the injured deputy.
Joseph Warren who was killed in Wednesday's conflict, was about 50 years old. He was married and the father of several children. He was recognized as a peaceful and law abiding citizen by his friends and acquaintances.
"Jack" Fanning, the injured deputy, is well known over the State having served as constable for a long time. He took a position with the federal government and has rendered faithful service. He is brave and fearless in the discharge of his duties and has been associated with other officers in many liquor raids. He is popular in Columbia and through the commonwealth.



Aiken Standard, Aiken, SC, 7/12/1919, Pg 1, "Claim Fanning Shot Himself"
In an article published in the Saluda Standard concerning the shooting of Constable Fanning and the killing of Joseph Warren recently in Saluda County. It is stated by members of the Warren family and others that Warren did not shoot at all from his revolver which he grabbed from between the mattresses as he attempted to run away. It is claimed that Warren was shot while running off and that when he was lying on the ground one of the officers bent over him and shot him in the chest. Sheriff Sample states that Joseph Warren was a law abiding citizen to all accounts and bore a good reputation in his community.

Note - Sheriff Sample was Benjamin "Ben" F. Samples born 12/15/1868 in the area. He served as Sheriff of Saluda County, SC for 20 yrs and a commissioner for 12 yrs. He was a lifelong resident of the area with deep roots and would have known this family. I'm sure this colored his view but whether he truly believed in the good reputation of Joseph Warren or was covering for him is unknown. Interesting either way.


The Newberry Weekly Herald, Newberry, SC, 7/15/1919, Pg 5, "Family Tells Story Of Warren's Death"
Version of Fatal Shooting in Saluda Does Not Agree With Published Reports
The State
Saluda, July 11-The scene of the killing of Joseph M. Warren near Batesburg was visited this week by Sheriff Sample, M.H. Duffie, magistrate, and J.E. Smith, foreman of the grand jury. It will be remembered Warren was killed by revenue officers last week and one o the revenue officers last week and on e of the officers, J.G. Fannin, was wounded.
According to the published account said to come from the revenue officers, Fannin, accompanied by T.G. Coleman and C. Rector, visited the Warren home and explained their mission. They were invited into the home to conduct a search for a still. The officers are alleged to have located an outfit except the cap. Warren was placed under arrest and a member of the family told the officers where the cap could be found. Warren, it is said, made some pretext to go to his room. Rector noticed the man as he advanced toward a window and hollered, "Look out." Fannin was close to the window and pitched to the ground when a pistol shot rang out. Another shot from Warren's gun missed the mark and Fannin began firing. He shot five times and Warren fell about 12 feet from where he lay. The first shot by Warren entered Fannin's hip, disabling him instantly. He fell, pulled his gun and fired as he rested on his side.
Sheriff Sample and others stated they saw the alleged 60 gallon still found by the revenue officers and all they could make out of it was a 60 gallon kerosene tank, with holes rusted in the bottom, and which evidently had not been used for a long time; also a reservoir from a range was found which Mrs. Warren said she had been using for preserving fruits.
The county officers said the presence of so many guns, rifles and pistols in the home of Warren was accounted for by the family and neighbors by the fact that Warren was a gunsmith and had these guns there, working on them. It is said some off the guns discovered by the revenue officers had no locks and others had no stocks.
According to the family of Warren the revenue officers entered the house and demanded that some liquor be produced or they would "kill the whole family." Upon being told there was no liquor there, it is said that one of the officers went out to search the outhouses, while another walked down to the creek, near the house, leaving one on guard. It is claimed that when Warren was told he would have to go with the officers he agreed, but asked time to change his clothes. He then went into another room it is said, and changed trousers and when he came back into the room in which the officer was on guard, he reached down under a mattress of a bed, secured his revolver and jumped out of a window. The family say he was shot while running and did not fire a shot from his revolver. They claim that the only shot from Warren's revolver was fired after he was shot down when one of the officers ran up and took his (Warren's) pistol and shot him through the chest. It is claimed that after and before the killing the revenue officers terrified the family with threats and cursing.
It is said Warren bore a good reputation in his community as being a quiet, law abiding citizen and that his neighbors who had lived near him for years do not believe he was operating a still, but that he was killed, without firing a shot, by the revenue officers. It is not believed that Warren shot Fannin, but that the latter was shot by a bullet from one of his own pistols. It is possible some interesting facts will develop at the inquest.


SC Death Certificate #14141, Registration District #3900, Registered #46, Joseph M. Warren, DOD 7/2/1919 in Saluda County, SC
Male, White, Married, DOB 5/15/1866 in Saluda County, SC, 53 yrs old
Occupation: Farming
Father: Jesse Warren, born in ?
Mother: Sallie Gossit (sic), born in Saluda County, SC
Informant: Charlie Humphrey, Batesburg, SC
DOD 7/2/1919
Cause of death: "gunshot wound in chest homicide"
Buried: 7/3/1919 in West Creek Cemetery

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Joseph Warren
Birth: May 15, 1866
Death: Jul. 2, 1919
Family links:
Parents:
Jesse Warren (1813 - ____)
Sallie Gossett Warren (1822 - 1915)
Spouse: Carrie Busby Warren (1871 - 1963)
Sibling:
Arthur Artemus Milledge Warren (1863 - 1929)
Note: Our Saluda County Ancestors, Vol. III, p. 175.
Burial: West Creek Baptist Church, Saluda County, South Carolina, USA
Maintained by: Vicki Johnson
Originally Created by: Buddy
Record added: Sep 24, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 77010442

Note - Officer J.G. Fanning was Jackson "Jack" Gabriel Fanning from Columbia, SC. He was born 12/26/1879 in SC and was married to Ella. At the time of the raid he would have been about 40 yrs old. In doing a search on his name at Newspapers.com, he had an interesting life! But for our purposes, he recovered from being shot.


Carrie Anna Warren carried on with the help of her sons.

1920 U.S. Census of  Township 2, Saluda County, South Carolina; Roll: T625_1708; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 119; Image: 662, Family #264, Lines 95-100, "Carrie A. Warren"
Carrie A. Warren, Head, Owned farm, M(ale), W(hite), 48 yrs old (DOB 1872), Widowed, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farmer
Joseph M. Warren, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1900), Single, Cannot read or write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farmer
Christopher C. Warren, Son, M, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1903), Single, Cannot read or write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farmer
Mike W. Warren, Son, M, W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Single, Attends school, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Jessie Warren, Son, M, W, 11 yrs old (DOB 1909), Single, Attends school, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Marry E. Warren (sic), Daughter, F, W, 9 yrs old (DOB 1911), Single, Attends school, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

Carrie Anna Busby Warren died 2/19/1963 in Waterloo, Laurens County, SC at the old age of 91 yrs old.

SC Death Certificate #63 002525, Registration District #2907, Corrie Busby Warren (sic), DOD 2/19/1963 in Waterloo, Laurens County, SC
Usual residence: Batesburg, Saluda County, SC
Female, White, Widowed, Spouse: Joe Warren, DOB 9/16/1871 in SC, 91 yrs old
Father: Bill Busby, Mother: Susan Whittle, Informant: Joe Warren
DOD 2/19/1963 at 2:00am
Cause of death: Cerebral thrombosis due to arteriosclerosis due to senility
Buried: 2/25/1963 in Ware Shoals, SC

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Carrie Busby Warren
Birth: 1871
Death: 1963
Family links: Spouse:  Joseph M. Warren (1866 - 1919)
Note: Our Saluda County Ancestors, Vol. III, p. 175.
Burial: West Creek Baptist Church, Saluda County, South Carolina, USA
Created by: Buddy
Record added: Sep 24, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 77010478

As a side note, his son, Jess Warren, got into a little trouble with an illegal still too in 1956, thirty seven years after his father was killed. He would have been 11 years old when his father was killed.


The Index Journal, Greenwood, SC, 3/27/1956, Pg 5, "Five Arrested In Raid On Still Near Verdery"
Five men were arrested at the site of a liquor still in the Verdery section raided yesterday afternoon by officers of the Federal Alcohol Tax Unit and Sheriff's deputies. Those held are Henry Pinkney, Jesse Warren, Willie Hip, Elmond Warren and Harris Burton. They were taken before U.S. Commissioner James Hill in Abbeville today to be arraigned on federal charges. The four barrel still was in operation at the time of the raid. ATU Agent J.T. Roberts said. Officers destroyed 240 gallons of mash and seven gallons of whiskey. Taking part in the raid, along with Agent Roberts were David L. Haddon, ATU investigator; Deputies R.L. Lyon, W.E. Buzhardt, W.M. Dorn and P.R. Underwood.

Note: Elmond Warren was a black man and NOT related to Jesse James Warren. Elmond's father was ALSO named Jesse Warren and born in 1908. Finding two Jesse Warren's born in 1908 and living in Ware Shoals made it interesting to untangle. But one was black and one was white and I eventually got them separated in my research. Considering the names and now this connection in this article, makes you wonder if the two families (although black and white) were close friends?


The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 4/13/1956, Pg 32, "Callison Added to Evans' Deense At Greenwood"
...Jesse Warren, pleading guilty to violation of the liquor law, was given 17 months, suspended on payment of $175 or service of four months.

Our grandnieces and grandnephews are going through their Pre-School graduation programs. They are so sweet! So here are my digital scrapbook pages of them.

Our grandnieces and grandnephews have dogs and are very aware of dog rescue. Brett seems to be very drawn to dogs and dog rescue. I think he gets that from his mother, Jenny, and his maternal grandmother, my sister, Elaine. Elaine has her own dog rescue organization. I'm very proud of them learning these lessons. It teaches empathy, compassion, kindness, gentleness, commitment.

Here is a boy and his dog, a rescued Pomeranian.

In the largest photo, they had visited a local shelter. The smaller photos are Brett with their two dogs, both rescues. Unfortunately, the German Shepherd didn't survive as he had a massive mega-esphagus. Despite their best care, he only lasted a few months. But at least they were good months, full of love and care.

James Minor Harris was born 3/18/1905 in Union County, SC to Edward Boyd Harris (DOB 5/23/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/1/1930 in Union County, SC) and Ida Mae Shaw (DOB 8/24/1882 in Rockingham, Richmond County, NC; DOD 6/10/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). He was the eldest of 6 children, 5 boys and 1 girl. James Minor Harris is the brother of Stan's direct ancestor, Clyde Harris, his grandfather.

1910 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T624_1474; Page:  2A; Enumeration District:  123; Image:  1061, Lines 12-18, "Boyd E. Harris"
Boyd E. Harris, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 30 yrs old (DOB 1880), First marriage, Married 5 yrs (DOM 1905), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write, Engineer in cotton mill, Rents home
Ida M. Harris, Wife, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1883), First marriage, Married 5 yrs, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Can read and write
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1905), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Walter E. Harris, Son, M, W, 2 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 11/12 mos old (DOB 1909), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bennie Harris (sic, looks like Bernice Harris which is correct but Ancestry.com has her indexed as Bennie
Harris), Sister, F, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Spooler at cotton mill
Bessie Harris, Sister, F, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1895), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC

1920 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T625_1713; Page:  7B; Enumeration District:  144; Image:  931, Lines 62-70, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Head, Rents home, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Married, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Stationary Engineer
Ida Harris, Wife, F, W, 37 yrs old (DOB 1883), Married, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC (1910 Census says Ida was born in NC, Father born in England and Mother born in Maryland)
Minna Harris (sic, should be James Minor Harris and looks like Minor but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Minna Harris), Daughter (sic.?), F (sic, ?), W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Mill Laborer
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 10 yrs old (DOB 1910), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1913), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Dee C. Harris (sic, should be Gene Carrol "G.C." Harris but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Dee C. Harris), Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1915), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1917), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Lizzie Shaw, Boarder, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC

James Minor Harris married Ferol Bradshaw (aka Ferel Bradshaw, Ferrell Bradshaw) about 1925. She was born 8/19/1902 in SC to William M. Shaw and Elizabeth R. Eubanks (aka Eliza Eubanks). They had 3 children that I'm aware of:

1) James B. Harris (DOB Abt 1929 in SC; DOD ? in ? ) married Nancy A. ?.

2) Dale Harris (DOB Abt 1935 in SC; DOD ? in ? ) married James R. Griffin, Sr.

3) Cynthia Carol Harris (DOB Abt 1936 in SC; DOD ? in ? ) married Larry R. Wilson.

1930 U.S. Census of Railroad Ave, Glenn Springs, Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  2215; Page:  6A; Enumeration District:  23; Image:  338.0, Lines 6-18, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Rents house at $9/months, Owned radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old (DOB 1878), Married at age 26 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police for cotton mill
Ida May Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Can read and write, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Weaver at cotton mill
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Burnice Harris (sic), Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1913), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
G. Boyd Harris (sic, should be Gene Carroll "G.C." Harris), Son, M, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1915), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Run drawings at cotton mill
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1917), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1906), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1925), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Moulder at iron foundary
Feri Harris (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1903), Married at age 22 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in England, Mother born in SC, Housekeeper for private family
James B. Harris, Grandson, M, W, 1 yrs old (DOB 1929), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married at age 20 yrs old (DOM 1928), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge Harris, Daughter-in-law, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married at age 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Drawing in at cotton mill
Hellen Harris (sic), Granddaughter, 1 yr 7/12 mos old (DOB 1928), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lizzie Shaw, Sister-in-law, F, W, 59 yrs old (DOB 1871), Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Spooler at cotton mill
Railroad St, Union, SC near Monarch Mill (cotton mill). There is no house of that house number any more.

Part of the Harris family. Edward Boyd Harris is the white haired gentleman in the back, center. His wife, Ida Mae Shaw is the lady 2nd from the right wearing glasses. Their daughter, Bernice, is the woman between them wearing the black stockings like her mother. Edward Boyd Harris' mother, Sarah Brakefield Harris, wife of Gamewell Calhoun Harris, is the white haired old lady to the left of Boyd. Ida Mae Shaw, Charity Sibley Shaw, is the short little old lady in front. James Minor Harris is the man on the far left with his wife, Ferel Bradshaw in front of him.

1940 U.S. Census of Meeting St., Charleston, Charleston County, South Carolina; Roll: T627_3794; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 10-43, Lines 3-7, "James Minor Harris"
James Minor Harris, Head, Rents home $35, M(ale), W(hite), 35 yrs old (DOB 1905), Married, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in Spartanburg, SC in 1935, Molder in Navy yard
Ferol Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 38 yrs old (DOB 1902), Married, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in Spartanburg, SC in 1935
James Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1928), Attends school, attended thru 3rd grade, Born in SC, Lived in Spartanburg, SC in 1935
Dale Harris, Daughter, F, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1935), Born in SC, Lived in Spartanburg, SC in 1935
Cynthia Harris, Daughter, F, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1937), Born in SC

Ferol Bradshaw Harris died 10/25/1966 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC. I could not find her death certificate.


The Greenville News, Greenville, Greenville County, SC, 10/26/1966, Pg 12, "Mrs. J.M. Harris"
Mrs. J.M. Harris
Mrs. Ferol Bradshaw Harris, 64, of 1331 E. Washington St., wife of J. Minor Harris, died yesterday at 1:30 p.m. at a local hospital following 3 months of serious illness and 1 1/2 years declining health. Born in Spartanburg County, a daughter of the late William M. and Eliza Eubanks Bradshaw, she had made her home in Greenville for the past 25 years. She was a communicant of Christ Episcopal Church. Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. Larry R. Wilson and Mrs. James R. Griffin of Greenville; a son, James B. Harris of Stockton, Calif.; three sisters, Mrs. Jean N. Brannon of Greenville, Mrs. Tiny Ellis of Aaron, Ill. and Mrs. Henry Wingard of Edisto State Park and six grandchildren. Funeral services will be conducted Thursday at 11 a.m. at Christ Episcopal Church by Rev. Thomas A. Carson Jr. Burial will be in Woodlawn Memorial Park. The body is at The Mackey Mortuary.

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Ferol Bradshaw Harris
Birth: Aug. 19, 1902
Death: Oct. 25, 1966
Family links:  Spouse:  James Minor Harris (1905 - 1986)
Burial: Woodlawn Memorial Park, Greenville, Greenville County, South Carolina, USA
Plot: Section - G
Created by: Chris Smith
Record added: Jun 23, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 92415424

Minor Harris married Eunice Lee Satterfield next. Eunice Satterfield was born 11/25/1905 in Anderson County, SC to James Addison Satterfield and Cara Stewart. She was married to Glyde Glenn first. Glyde Glenn was born 4/23/1894 in Laurens County, SC and died 8/29/1970 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC.

According to his obituary, Minor Harris lived at 124 Capers St, Greenville, Greenville County, SC.



James Minor Harris worked as a metallurgist at Eagle Iron Works, 401 Dunbar Street, Greenville, Greenville County, SC. A machinery and foundary business that was largely involved in textile machinery and parts manufacture. It was incorporated in SC in 1947. I believe it is now closed and the building has been replaced but here is what I could find. This is the building before it was torn down and replaced.




Minor Harris died 11/24/1986 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC.

U. S. Social Security Death Index
Name: James Harris
SSN: 249-03-****
Last Residence: 29605 Greenville, Greenville, South Carolina, United States of America
Born: 18 Mar 1905
Last Benefit: 29605 Greenville, Greenville, South Carolina, United States of America
Died: Nov 1986
State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (Before 1951)


The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 11/26/1986, Pg 27, "James M. Harris"
James M. Harris
James Minor Harris, 81, of 124 Capers Street, died Nov. 24, 1986. He was a retired metallurgist for Eagle Iron Works and a member of Buncombe Street United Methodist Church. Surviving are his wife, Eunice Glenn Harris of the home; two daughters, Cynthia Wilson of Greenville and Dale Griffin of Ft. Smith, Ark.; a son, James B. Harris of Stockton, Calif.; and a sister, Bernice Wallace of Union. Services: 2:30 p.m. Wednesday in the Chapel of Buncombe Street United Methodist Church. Burial, with Masonic Rites, will be in Woodlawn Memorial Park. Visitation: 2 p.m. until funeral time Wednesday at the church chapel. Memorial may be made to the Capital Fund at Buncombe Street United Methodist Church or to a charity of ones' choice - The Mackey Mortuary

Findagrave.com
James Minor Harris
Birth: Mar. 18, 1905
Death: Nov. 24, 1986
Family links: Spouse: Ferol Bradshaw Harris (1902 - 1966)
Burial: Woodlawn Memorial Park, Greenville, Greenville County, South Carolina, USA
Plot: Section - G
Created by: Chris Smith
Record added: Jun 23, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 92415387


Eunice Glenn died 4/7/1990 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC.

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Eunice G Harris
[Eunice L Harris]
[Euncie Glenn]
[Eunice G Satterfield]
SSN: 24805****
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1905
Birth Place: Anderson CO, South Carolina
[Pelzer, South Carolina]
Death Date: 7 Apr 1990
Father: James A Satterfield
Mother: Cara E Stewart
Claim Date: 14 Aug 1967
Type of Claim: Duplicate SSN - change or replacement.
Additional Information: Evidence other than birth record submitted; U.S. citizen or alien allowed to work. Notes: 24 Jun 1977: Name listed as EUNICE G HARRIS; 19 Feb 1988: Name listed as EUNICE L HARRIS; 11 Aug 1967: Name listed as EUNCIE L GLENN

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Eunice L. Harris
SSN: 248-05-****
Last Residence: 29605 Greenville, Greenville, South Carolina, USA
BORN: 25 Nov 1905
Died: 7 Apr 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (Before 1951)


Obituary of Eunice Satterfield Glenn Harris, The Greenville News, Greenville, Greenville County, SC, "Mrs. J. Minor Harris"
Mrs. J. Minor Harris
Mrs. Eunice S. Glenn Harris, 84, of Capers Street, widow of James Minor Harris, died Saturday, April 7, 1990.
She was born in Anderson County, South Carolina, November 25, 1905, a daughter of the late James Addison and Cara Stewart Satterfield. She was a member of Buncombe Street United Methodist Church and a member and former officer of the Robert Morris Sunday School Class. She was a former member of the Greenville Woman's Club and a member and former secretary o the Retired Railroad Association.
Her first husband was the late Glyde Glenn.
Surviving are one sister, Mrs. Sara Anderson of Elberton, Ga.; two stepdaughters, Cynthia Wilson of Greenville and Dale Griffin of Fort Smith, Ark.; and one stepson, James B. Harris of Stockton, Calif.
Funeral services will be conducted Monday at 11 a.m. at The Mackey Mortuary by Dr. M.L. Meadors, Jr. and Rev. William R. Claytor, Jr. Burial will be in Woodlawn Memorial Park.
Visitation will be Sunday from 7 until 8:30 p.m. at the mortuary.
Memorials may be made to the charity of one's choice.


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Walter Edward Harris about 1907 in Union County, SC to Edward Boyd Harris (DOB 5/23/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/1/1930 in Union County, SC) and Ida Mae Shaw (DOB 8/24/1882 in Rockingham, Richmond County, NC; DOD 6/10/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). He was the second eldest of 6 children, 5 boys and 1 girl. Walter "Walt" Edward Harris is the brother of Stan's direct ancestor, Clyde Harris, his grandfather.

1910 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T624_1474; Page:  2A; Enumeration District:  123; Image:  1061, Lines 12-18, "Boyd E. Harris"
Boyd E. Harris, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 30 yrs old (DOB 1880), First marriage, Married 5 yrs (DOM 1905), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write, Engineer in cotton mill, Rents home
Ida M. Harris, Wife, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1883), First marriage, Married 5 yrs, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Can read and write
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1905), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Walter E. Harris, Son, M, W, 2 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 11/12 mos old (DOB 1909), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bennie Harris (sic, looks like Bernice Harris which is correct but Ancestry.com has her indexed as Bennie
Harris), Sister, F, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Spooler at cotton mill
Bessie Harris, Sister, F, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1895), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC

1920 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T625_1713; Page:  7B; Enumeration District:  144; Image:  931, Lines 62-70, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Head, Rents home, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Married, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Stationary Engineer
Ida Harris, Wife, F, W, 37 yrs old (DOB 1883), Married, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC (1910 Census says Ida was born in NC, Father born in England and Mother born in Maryland)
Minna Harris (sic, should be James Minor Harris and looks like Minor but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Minna Harris), Daughter (sic.?), F (sic, ?), W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Mill Laborer
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 10 yrs old (DOB 1910), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1913), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Dee C. Harris (sic, should be Gene Carrol "G.C." Harris but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Dee C. Harris), Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1915), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1917), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Lizzie Shaw, Boarder, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC

1930 U.S. Census of Railroad Ave, Glenn Springs, Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  2215; Page:  6A; Enumeration District:  23; Image:  338.0, Lines 6-18, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Rents house at $9/months, Owned radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old (DOB 1878), Married at age 26 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police for cotton mill
Ida May Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Can read and write, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Weaver at cotton mill
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Burnice Harris (sic), Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1913), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
G. Boyd Harris (sic, should be Gene Carroll "G.C." Harris), Son, M, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1915), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Run drawings at cotton mill
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1917), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1906), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1925), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Moulder at iron foundary
Feri Harris (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1903), Married at age 22 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in England, Mother born in SC, Housekeeper for private family
James B. Harris, Grandson, M, W, 1 yrs old (DOB 1929), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married at age 20 yrs old (DOM 1928), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge Harris, Daughter-in-law, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married at age 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Drawing in at cotton mill
Hellen Harris (sic), Granddaughter, 1 yr 7/12 mos old (DOB 1928), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lizzie Shaw, Sister-in-law, F, W, 59 yrs old (DOB 1871), Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Spooler at cotton mill
Railroad St, Union, SC near Monarch Mill (cotton mill). There is no house of that house number any more.

Part of the Harris family. Edward Boyd Harris is the white haired gentleman in the back, center. His wife, Ida Mae Shaw is the lady 2nd from the right wearing glasses. Their daughter, Bernice, is the woman between them wearing the black stockings like her mother. Edward Boyd Harris' mother, Sarah Brakefield Harris, wife of Gamewell Calhoun Harris, is the white haired old lady to the left of Boyd. Ida Mae Shaw.

Walt Harris married Madge Wood about 1927 in Union County, SC. Madge Wood Harris was born about 1908 in SC to Booth and Mattie Wood. They had one child that I'm aware of:

1) Helen Harris (DOB Abt 1928 in Union County, SC; DOD ? in ? ) married ?

1940 U.S. Census of 87 Walker Street, Ottaray-Monarch, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: T627_3843; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 44-24, Lines 19-21, "Walter E. Harris"
Walter E. Harris, Head, Rents home for $4, M(ale), W(hite), 32 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married, Attended school thru 4th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge E. Harris, Wife, F, W, 30 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married, Attended high school 3 yrs, Lived in same place in 1935, Draw Em Hand at cotton mill
Helen E. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 11 yrs old (DOB 1929), Single, Attends school, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935

There is no 87 Walker St, Union, SC any more. But here is Walker Street from Google satellite. It's basically across the street from Monarch Mill where he worked.


Walt Harris owned a motel court on the eastside of Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC. It had a house that was a bar and pool room and one room cabins behind it. It was on East Main Street past Hillcrest Mall. It was on the old SC Highway 29. Back then it was on the original Hwy 29. Parts of it are still there but renamed Old Charlotte Rd. The old road bed, across from the current Walmart, can still be seen but maybe not for much longer as they are building a new Spartanburg High School and campus there.




Currently the house that had the bar and pool room is still there along with the round drive to the cabins behind it. It's on the new East Main Street, SC Highway 29 across from the eastside Walmart. The cabins are gone. I don't know how much longer the house will be there as it has burned and they are building the new Spartanburg High School and campus there. But here are the photos we got late last year.










I don't know if Walt and Madge divorced or if they were still married when he died? His death certificate indicates they were still married but family tends to remember they weren't still living together. ?  Walt Harris died 5/20/1951 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC of "cardiac decompensation". Cardiac Decompensation is the inability of the heart to maintain adequate circulation. Characterized by difficulty breathing, leg/feet swelling, fatigue. The condition is caused by severe congestion of multiple organs by fluid that is inadequately circulated by the failing heart.

Madge Harris then married Henry Lee Lackey (DOB 3/29/1898 in Bryson City, Swain County, NC; DOD 6/12/1964 in Union, Union County, SC).


SC Death Certificate #51 009331, Registration District #40-A, Registrar's #385-590, Walter E. Harris, DOD 5/20/1951 in Spartanburg General Hospital, Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC
Usual residence: Route 1, Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC
Male, White, Married to Madge Wood Harris, DOB 5/6/1907 in Union County, SC, 44 yrs old
Occupation: Tavern operator
Father: Edward Boyd Harris, Mother: Ida Mae Shaw, Informant: (blank)
DOD 5/20/1951 at 3:00pm
Cause of death: Cardiac decompensation due to esuntial (sic) hypertension
Buried: 5/22/1951 in Wesley's Chapel United Methodist Church, Union County, SC

South Carolina Death Index, 1950-1952
Name: Walter E Harris
Death Date: 20 May 1951
Age: 44
County: Spartanburg
Gender: Male
Race: White
Death Certificate: 009331

U. S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Walter Harris
SSN: 404-03-****
Born: 23 Jul 1904
Died: Nov 1957
State (Year) SSN issued: Kentucky (Before 1951)

Findagrave.com
Walter Edward Harris
Birth: 1907
Death: 1951
Burial: Wesley Chapel Cemetery, Union, Union County, South Carolina, USA
Created by: Frank & Lillian
Record added: Apr 28, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8695585




Madge Woods Harris Lackey died 8/4/1995 in Richmond County, GA.

Georgia Deaths, 1919-98
Name: Madge Lackey
Death Date: 4 Aug 1995
County of Death: Richmond
Gender: F (Female)
Race: White
Age: 85 Years
County of Residence: Richmond
Certificate: 034619
Date Filed: 10 Aug 1995

Findagrave.com
Madge Wood/Harris Lackey
Birth: 1910, USA
Death: 1995, Union County, South Carolina, USA
Family links: Spouse: Henry Lee Lackey (1898 - 1964)
Burial: Fairview Cemetery, Union, Union County, South Carolina, USA
Created by: patricia parker-brown
Record added: Jun 11, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 91780240

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Leo Wilson Harris was born 12/23/1917 in Union County, SC to Edward Boyd Harris (DOB 5/23/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/1/1930 in Union County, SC) and Ida Mae Shaw (DOB 8/24/1882 in Rockingham, Richmond County, NC; DOD 6/10/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). He was one of 6 children, 5 boys and 1 girl. Leo Wilson Harris is the brother of Stan's direct ancestor, Clyde Harris, his grandfather.

1920 U.S. Census of Union, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: T625_1713; Page:  7B; Enumeration District: 144; Image: 931, Lines 62-70, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Head, Rents home, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Married, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Stationary Engineer
Ida Harris, Wife, F, W, 37 yrs old (DOB 1883), Married, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC (1910 Census says Ida was born in NC, Father born in England and Mother born in Maryland)
Minna Harris (sic, should be James Minor Harris and looks like Minor but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Minna Harris), Daughter (sic.?), F (sic, ?), W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Mill Laborer
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 10 yrs old (DOB 1910), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1913), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Dee C. Harris (sic, should be Gene Carrol "G.C." Harris but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Dee C. Harris), Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1915), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1917), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Lizzie Shaw, Boarder, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC


1930 U.S. Census of Railroad Ave, Glenn Springs, Union, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: 2215; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 23; Image: 338.0, Lines 6-18, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Rents house at $9/months, Owned radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old (DOB 1878), Married at age 26 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police for cotton mill
Ida May Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Can read and write, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Weaver at cotton mill
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Burnice Harris (sic), Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1913), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
G. Boyd Harris (sic, should be Gene Carroll "G.C." Harris), Son, M, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1915), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Run drawings at cotton mill
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1917), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1906), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1925), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Moulder at iron foundary
Feri Harris (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1903), Married at age 22 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in England, Mother born in SC, Housekeeper for private family
James B. Harris, Grandson, M, W, 1 yrs old (DOB 1929), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married at age 20 yrs old (DOM 1928), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge Harris, Daughter-in-law, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married at age 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Drawing in at cotton mill
Hellen Harris (sic), Granddaughter, 1 yr 7/12 mos old (DOB 1928), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lizzie Shaw, Sister-in-law, F, W, 59 yrs old (DOB 1871), Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Spooler at cotton mill
Railroad St, Union, SC near Monarch Mill (cotton mill). There is no house of that house number any more.

Part of the Harris family. Edward Boyd Harris is the white haired gentleman in the back, center. His wife, Ida Mae Shaw is the lady 2nd from the right wearing glasses. Their daughter, Bernice, is the woman between them wearing the black stockings like her mother. Edward Boyd Harris' mother, Sarah Brakefield Harris, wife of Gamewell Calhoun Harris, is the white haired old lady to the left of Boyd. Ida Mae Shaw, Charity Elizabeth "Lizzie" Sibley Shaw, is the short little old lady in front. James Minor Harris is the man on the far left with his wife, Ferel Bradshaw in front of him.

Leo's father, Boyd Harris, died when Leo was just 12 yrs old in 1930.

1940 U.S. Census of Railroad Avenue, Buffalo, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: T627_3843; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 44-24, Lines 65-60, "Ida M. Harris"
Ida M. Harris, Head, Rents home for $6, F(emale), W(hite), 57 yrs old (DOB 1883), Widowed, Attended school thru 4th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935
G.C. Boyd Harris (sic), Son, M, W, 25 yrs old (DOB 1915), Married, Attended school thru 6th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Spare hand in cotton mill
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter-in-law (sic, should be daughter), F, W, 26 yrs old (DOB 1914), Married, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Battey Filler (sic) in cotton mill
Leo W. Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1918), Single, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Cabler in cotton mill
Jessie M. Warren, Granddaughter, F, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1937), Born in SC

World War II was raging in the world. America had not joined the war with Germany in Europe or with Japan in the Pacific yet. But Leo Harris joined the U.S. Army on 9/3/1940, a year early. He served throughout the War getting out 8/21/1945.

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Name: Leo W Harris
Birth Year: 1917
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: South Carolina
State of Residence: South Carolina
County or City: Union
Enlistment Date: 3 Sep 1940
Enlistment State: North Carolina
Enlistment City: Charlotte
Branch: Field Artillery
Branch Code: Field Artillery
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Three year enlistment
Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: Grammar school
Civil Occupation: Semiskilled chauffeurs and drivers, bus, taxi, truck, and tractor
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 71
Weight: 155.

U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010
Name: Leo Harris
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1917
Death Date: 27 Nov 1973
SSN: 24710****
Branch 1: ARMY
Enlistment Date 1: 3 Sep 1940
Release Date 1: 21 Aug 1945

My husband remembers his great uncle Leo coming to stay with them when he was "passing thru". This would have been in the 1950's-1960's so it was after WWII. Leo was a severe alcoholic who wandered around a lot and whose work was sporadic. But when he was in Spartanburg, he would ask to stay with his nephew, Billy Harris. So Stan and Kenny would end up in the top bunk while Uncle Leo slept on the bottom bunk. Stan said he would mumble and talk all night long in his sleep and it was always to do with the War. He would say things like, "No, Sir!", "Yes, Captain!" and so forth. It would scare them. So I assume Leo was suffering from PTSD or what was known back then as shell shock, battle fatigue or combat stress reaction. Stan thinks Leo was in the Pacific fighting the Japanese. I would love to find out more about his WWII service.

Leo Wilson Harris married Frances Sibbie Bowman on 3/6/1948 in Union, Union County, SC. She was born 1/30/1930 in Winston-Salem, Forsyth County, NC to Pearlie G. Bowman and Rose B. Chandler. They had no children that I'm aware of. They divorced and she married then Harry Larue Jeffords (DOB 2/7/1922 in Lynchburg, Lee County, SC; DOD 5/28/1996 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC). She may have also been married to a Bell, but I don't know anything more than the last name.

Leo's brother, Walt Harris, died in 1951 when Leo was 33 yrs old. Next his mother, Ida Mae Shaw Harris, died in 1955 when Leo was 37 yrs old. The very next year, he lost his brother Clyde Harris in a car accident in 1956. In 1963, he lost his brother Gene Carroll Harris.

My husband remembered one time he rode with his father, Billy Harris, to go get Leo Harris from the hospital. He had had a heat stroke. His temperature was higher than the thermometer could register. He survived it! He always carried a card with Billy's address and phone number just in case something happened to him, they would know who to call. When he died, that was how they notified the family. The hospital called Billy.

Leo, himself, died 11/27/1973 in High Point, Guilford County, NC at the age of 55 yrs old of a myocardial infarction (basically a heart attack).

NC Death Certificate #41344, Registration District #41-96, Leo W. Harris, DOD 11/27/1973 in 111 Oakwood Court, High Point, Guilford County, NC (at home)
Male, White, Never Married (sic), DOB 12/23/1917 in SC, 55 yrs old
Occupation: Carpenter, Furniture Making
SS# 247-10-6***
Father: Boyd Harris, Mother: Ida Shaw, Informant: Bernice H. Warren, Spartanburg, SC
DOD 11/27/1973 at 9:30am
Cause of death: Myocardial infarction, natural death
Buried 11/30/1973 at Wesley Chapel Methodist Church, Union County, SC

NC Death Collection, 1908-2004
Name: Leo Harris
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marital Status: Never Married (Single)
Age: 55
Date of Birth: 1918
Residence City: High Point
Residence County: Guilford
Date of Death: 27 Nov 1973
Death City: High Point (P)
Death County: Guilford
Death State: North Carolina
Autopsy: No
Institution: Home
Attendant: Medical Examiner
Recorded Date: 1963
Source Vendor: NC Department of Health. North Carolina Deaths, 1970-74
Certificate: 41A344

U. S. Social Security Death Index
Name: Leo Harris
SSN: 247-10-****
Born: 23 Dec 1916
Died: Nov 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (Before 1951)


Obituary of Leo Wilson Harris, Spartanburg Herold Journal, Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC
Union-Leo Wilson Harris, 54, of Oakwood Court, High Point, N.C., died Tuesday.
Born in Union County, son of the late Boyd and Ida Shaw Harris, he was a veteran of World War II.
Surviving are a sister, Mrs. Bernice H. Warren of Spartanburg; and a brother, James Minor Harris of Oakland, Calif.
Funeral services will be Friday at 3 p.m. at S.R. Holcombe Funeral Chapel, with burial in Wesley Chapel Methodist Church cemetery with military rites.
The family is at the home of Mrs. Harold Dean Davis, 411 Seigler Road, Union.
Mrs. Harold Dean Davis was his niece, Alice Faye Harris Davis, daughter of his brother, Gene Carroll Harris.

His death certificate and obituary indicates he was living at this house in High Point, NC. Probably was a rooming house.

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Edward Boyd Harris who married Ida Mae Shaw and they had
...a son, Clyde Harris who married Mabel Louise Cohen and they had
......a son, William "Billy" Clyde Harris who married Peggy Annette Prince and they had
.........a son, Stan Harris, my husband.

Clyde Harris was born 5/4/1909 in Union County, SC to Edward Boyd Harris (DOB 5/23/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/1/1930 in Union County, SC) and Ida Mae Shaw (DOB 8/24/1882 in Rockingham, Richmond County, NC; DOD 6/10/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). He was the third of 6 children, 5 boys and 1 girl. Clyde Harris is Stan's direct ancestor, his grandfather.

1910 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T624_1474; Page:  2A; Enumeration District:  123; Image:  1061, Lines 12-18, "Boyd E. Harris"
Boyd E. Harris, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 30 yrs old (DOB 1880), First marriage, Married 5 yrs (DOM 1905), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write, Engineer in cotton mill, Rents home
Ida M. Harris, Wife, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1883), First marriage, Married 5 yrs, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Can read and write
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1905), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Walter E. Harris, Son, M, W, 2 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 11/12 mos old (DOB 1909), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bennie Harris (sic, looks like Bernice Harris which is correct but Ancestry.com has her indexed as Bennie
Harris), Sister, F, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Spooler at cotton mill
Bessie Harris, Sister, F, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1895), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC

1920 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T625_1713; Page:  7B; Enumeration District:  144; Image:  931, Lines 62-70, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Head, Rents home, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Married, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Stationary Engineer
Ida Harris, Wife, F, W, 37 yrs old (DOB 1883), Married, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC (1910 Census says Ida was born in NC, Father born in England and Mother born in Maryland)
Minna Harris (sic, should be James Minor Harris and looks like Minor but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Minna Harris), Daughter (sic.?), F (sic, ?), W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Mill Laborer
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 10 yrs old (DOB 1910), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1913), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Dee C. Harris (sic, should be Gene Carrol "G.C." Harris but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Dee C. Harris), Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1915), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1917), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Lizzie Shaw, Boarder, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC


Clyde Harris

1930 U.S. Census of Railroad Ave, Glenn Springs, Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  2215; Page:  6A; Enumeration District:  23; Image:  338.0, Lines 6-18, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Rents house at $9/months, Owned radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old (DOB 1878), Married at age 26 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police for cotton mill
Ida May Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Can read and write, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Weaver at cotton mill
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Burnice Harris (sic), Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1913), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
G. Boyd Harris (sic, should be Gene Carroll "G.C." Harris), Son, M, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1915), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Run drawings at cotton mill
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1917), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1906), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1925), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Moulder at iron foundary
Feri Harris (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1903), Married at age 22 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in England, Mother born in SC, Housekeeper for private family
James B. Harris, Grandson, M, W, 1 yrs old (DOB 1929), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married at age 20 yrs old (DOM 1928), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge Harris, Daughter-in-law, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married at age 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Drawing in at cotton mill
Hellen Harris (sic), Granddaughter, 1 yr 7/12 mos old (DOB 1928), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lizzie Shaw, Sister-in-law, F, W, 59 yrs old (DOB 1871), Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Spooler at cotton mill.


Part of the Harris family. Edward Boyd Harris is the white haired gentleman in the back, center. His wife, Ida Mae Shaw is the lady 2nd from the right wearing glasses. Their daughter, Bernice, is the woman between them wearing the black stockings like her mother. Edward Boyd Harris' mother, Sarah Brakefield Harris, wife of Gamewell Calhoun Harris, is the white haired old lady to the left of Boyd. Ida Mae Shaw, Charity Elizabeth "Lizzie" Sibley Shaw, is the short little old lady in front.

Clyde Harris married Mabel Louise Cohen on 7/30/1930 in Union County, SC. Mabel Louise Cohen was born 2/12/1912 in Union County, SC to William "Will" Edward Cohen and Kathryn "Kate" Elizabeth Kelly.

Mabel Louise Cohen Harris

I could not find Clyde and Mabel Louise Cohen Harris in the 1940 U.S. Census.

Clyde and Mable Harris had 4 children:

1) Norma Dean Harris (DOB 8/8/1931 in Union, Union County, SC; DOD 7/20/2005 in Brandon, Hillsborough County, FL) married 1st L.H. Jones (DOB ? in ? ; DOD ? in ? ). They had Karen "Kay" Lynn Hyatt (DOB 1951 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) and a pair of twins that did not survive. Kay married Tommy McSwain and they had Kimberly Dawn and Kristy Michelle when they divorced. The girls were adopted by Dean and her 2nd husband, Carroll Hyatt. Dean married 2nd Charles "Charlie" Carroll Hyatt (DOB 3/28/1933 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 1/2/2012 in Tampa, Hillsborough County, FL). They had Terrie Carol Hyatt who married Michael Lindsey Mitchell and they had Stephen and Lindsey.

2) William "Billy" Clyde Harris (DOB 5/21/1933 in Union, Union County, SC; DOD 6/15/1989 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) married Peggy Annette Prince (DOB 1934 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living). They had Stan, Kenny, Kathi, Ronnie, Donnie and Angie. 1) Stan Harris is my husband and we have no children. 2) Kenny Harris married Anna Furnas and they have 3 boys. 3) Kathi Harris married Eddie Mumpower and they have a daughter. 4) Ronnie Harris married my sister, Elaine, and they had a daughter and a son. 5) Jeffery Donald "Donnie" Harris (DOB 9/1/1959 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 5/27/2015 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) married Tina West and they had 2 boys. 6) Angie Harris did not marry.

3) Margaret Lemond Harris (DOB 4/13/1935 in Union, Union County, SC; DOD 10/7/2000 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) married 1st Herman Rowe (DOB 5/22/1933 in Cherokee County, SC; DOD 8/4/2010 in Chesnee, Spartanburg County, SC). They had 1) Derrick Patton Rowe (DOB 1/11/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 7/8/1994 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) married Vicki Tate and they had Kristen Rowe and Heather Rowe. 2) Deborah Renee Rowe (DOB 1956 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) married Walter Dean Thompson (DOB 1952 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living ?). They had Matthew Bryan Thompson (DOB 1/3/1977 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 3/20/1994 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) and Jason Dean Thompson (DOB 8/1/1975 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 10/22/1991 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). 3) Denise Rowe (DOB 1961 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) married Mark William Fowler (DOB Abt 1957 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 1/12/1982 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). They had Jonathon Daniel Fowler (DOB Abt 1979 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 7/22/1994 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC), Daren Christopher Fowler (DOB 1981 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living), Jay Fowler (DOB 1984 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living), Clayton "Clay" Ramsey Fowler (DOB 1984 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living). 4) Darrell Blaine Rowe (DOB 6/23/1957 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 5/27/1980 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) married Linda Wall. They had Daryl Blaine Rowe, Jr. (DOB 1980 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living). Margaret Harris married 2nd Bill Cantrell (DOB ? in ? , DOD ? in ? ).

4) Carl Edward Harris (DOB 10/3/1938 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 11/20/2010 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC) married 1st Barbara Hayes (DOB ? in ? ; DOD ? in ? ). They had Carl Edward Harris, Jr. (DOB 8/24/1962 in Washington, DC; DOD 12/10/1988 in Naples, Collier County, FL) married Sandy Parks and had Amanda Harris. They had a daughter named Cynthia Ann Harris (DOB ? in ? ). Carl Harris married 2nd Elsie Juanita Worthy (DOB 4/16/1934 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; DOD 11/23/2012 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). They had 1) Amanda Suzette Harris (DOB 1966 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) married Guion Ray Fowler. 2) Tammy Annette Harris (DOB 1968 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) married Randy Dean Cochran (DOB 1/19/1967 in ? ; DOD 6/23/2012 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). They had Randy Blake Cochran, Kelsey Blair Cochran, Austin Taylor Cochran. 3) William Scott "Scottie" Harris (DOB 1971 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) married Angie Belue. They had Brandon Scott Harris and a daughter. 4) Tonya Lynn Harris (DOB 1975 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC; living) married Jeffery Ryan Pressley. They had Justin, Jacob and Payton Carlynn Pressley.

Clyde lost his job at Monarch Mill in Union so he got a job at Spartan Mills in Spartanburg and stayed in a boarding house during the week and rode the train home on the weekends. Later, he was able to rent a mill house and moved his family when his daughter, Dean, was 11 yrs old,  his son, Billy, was 9 years old; Margaret would have been about 7 and Carl would have been about 4 yrs old.

Clyde and Mabel were working at Converse Mill in Converse on Charlotte Hwy (now known as Hwy 29).


When Clyde died, they had an apartment at 344 St. John St., Spartanburg. It was a quad apartment house.
This map shows the approximate location of the apartments that Clyde and Mabel Harris were living in when he was killed in the accident. Their son, Billy Harris, and his family had another one of the apartments. (It was a quad apartment.) My husband, Stan, was only 2 yrs old when his grandfather was killed.


Clyde was working the 3rd shift and Mabel was working the 1st shift. When he got off from work, he was riding home with two co-workers. They were on the Cherry Hill bridge on Hwy 29. A car entered the bridge heading towards Charlotte and it pulled into their lane and hit them head on. Being on the bridge, there was no way to get out of the way. He died instantly.



SC Death Certificate #56 013981, Registration District #40-A, Registrar's #556-899, Clyde Harris, DOD 10/11/1956 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC (D.O.A. at Spartanburg General Hospital)
U. S. Social Security Death Index

Gene Carroll Harris, Sr. was born 8/21/1914 in Union County, SC to Edward Boyd Harris (DOB 5/23/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 7/1/1930 in Union County, SC) and Ida Mae Shaw (DOB 8/24/1882 in Rockingham, Richmond County, NC; DOD 6/10/1955 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). He was one of 6 children, 5 boys and 1 girl. G.C. Harris, Sr. is the brother of Stan's direct ancestor, Clyde Harris, his grandfather.

1910 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T624_1474; Page:  2A; Enumeration District:  123; Image:  1061, Lines 12-18, "Boyd E. Harris"
Boyd E. Harris, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 30 yrs old (DOB 1880), First marriage, Married 5 yrs (DOM 1905), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write, Engineer in cotton mill, Rents home
Ida M. Harris, Wife, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1883), First marriage, Married 5 yrs, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Can read and write
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1905), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Walter E. Harris, Son, M, W, 2 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 11/12 mos old (DOB 1909), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bennie Harris (sic, looks like Bernice Harris which is correct but Ancestry.com has her indexed as Bennie Harris), Sister, F, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Spooler at cotton mill
Bessie Harris, Sister, F, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1895), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC

1920 U.S. Census of Union,  Union County,  South Carolina; Roll:  T625_1713; Page:  7B; Enumeration District:  144; Image:  931, Lines 62-70, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Head, Rents home, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Married, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Stationary Engineer
Ida Harris, Wife, F, W, 37 yrs old (DOB 1883), Married, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC (1910 Census says Ida was born in NC, Father born in England and Mother born in Maryland)
Minna Harris (sic, should be James Minor Harris and looks like Minor but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Minna Harris), Daughter (sic.?), F (sic, ?), W, 14 yrs old (DOB 1906), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Mill Laborer
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 12 yrs old (DOB 1908), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 10 yrs old (DOB 1910), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter, F, W, 7 yrs old (DOB 1913), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Dee C. Harris (sic, should be Gene Carrol "G.C." Harris but Ancestry.com has him indexed as Dee C. Harris), Son, M, W, 5 yrs old (DOB 1915), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1917), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
Lizzie Shaw, Boarder, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1879), Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC

1930 U.S. Census of Railroad Ave, Glenn Springs, Union, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: 2215; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 23; Image: 338.0, Lines 6-18, "Boyd Harris"
Boyd Harris, Rents house at $9/months, Owned radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old (DOB 1878), Married at age 26 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police for cotton mill
Ida May Harris (sic), Wife, F, W, 46 yrs old (DOB 1884), Can read and write, Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Weaver at cotton mill
Clyde Harris, Son, M, W, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Burnice Harris (sic), Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old (DOB 1913), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
G. Boyd Harris (sic, should be Gene Carroll "G.C." Harris), Son, M, W, 15 yrs old (DOB 1915), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Run drawings at cotton mill
Leo Harris, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old (DOB 1917), Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC
James M. Harris, Son, M, W, 24 yrs old (DOB 1906), Married at age 19 yrs old (DOM 1925), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Moulder at iron foundary
Feri Harris (sic), Daughter-in-law, F, W, 27 yrs old (DOB 1903), Married at age 22 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in England, Mother born in SC, Housekeeper for private family
James B. Harris, Grandson, M, W, 1 yrs old (DOB 1929), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Walter Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1908), Married at age 20 yrs old (DOM 1928), Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in NC, Weaver at cotton mill
Madge Harris, Daughter-in-law, 20 yrs old (DOB 1910), Married at age 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Drawing in at cotton mill
Hellen Harris (sic), Granddaughter, 1 yr 7/12 mos old (DOB 1928), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Lizzie Shaw, Sister-in-law, F, W, 59 yrs old (DOB 1871), Born in NC, Father born in England, Mother born in Maryland, Spooler at cotton mill

Gene Carol Harris, Sr. married Alice Holden on 6/2/1939 in Union, Union County, SC. Alice Trucy Holden (aka Alice Treecy Holden) was born 1/7/1916 in Swain County, NC to James Henry Holden and Bertha Ida Hyde.

1940 U.S. Census of Railroad Avenue, Buffalo, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: T627_3843; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 44-24, Lines 65-60, "Ida M. Harris"
Ida M. Harris, Head, Rents home for $6, F(emale), W(hite), 57 yrs old (DOB 1883), Widowed, Attended school thru 4th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935
G.C. Boyd Harris (sic), Son, M, W, 25 yrs old (DOB 1915), Married, Attended school thru 6th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Spare hand in cotton mill
Bernice L. Harris, Daughter-in-law (sic, should be daughter), F, W, 26 yrs old (DOB 1914), Married, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Battey Filler (sic) in cotton mill
Leo W. Harris, Son, M, W, 22 yrs old (DOB 1918), Single, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in SC, Lived in same place in 1935, Cabler in cotton mill
Jessie M. Warren, Granddaughter, F, W, 3 yrs old (DOB 1937), Born in SC

Railroad St, Union, SC near Monarch Mill (cotton mill). There is no house of that house number any more.

Part of the Harris family. Edward Boyd Harris is the white haired gentleman in the back, center. His wife, Ida Mae Shaw is the lady 2nd from the right wearing glasses. Their daughter, Bernice, is the woman between them wearing the black stockings like her mother. Edward Boyd Harris' mother, Sarah Brakefield Harris, wife of Gamewell Calhoun Harris, is the white haired old lady to the left of Boyd. Ida Mae Shaw, Charity Sibley Shaw, is the short little old lady in front.



G.C. and Alice Harris had 4 children:

1) Alice Faye Harris (DOB 1941 in Union, Union County, SC; living) married Harold Dean Davis (DOB 1/13/1940 in Union, Union County, SC; DOD 1/7/2015 in Union, Union County, SC). They had 1) Bryan Keith Davis (living) married Kelly D. Parkins. 2) Stacy Lynn Davis (living) married Eric W. Hartley. 3) Donald Dean Davis (DOB 2/24/1962 in Union, Union County, SC; DOD 2/25/1962 in Union, Union County, SC). 4) Ronald Davis (DOB 2/24/1962 in Union, Union County, SC; DOD 2/25/1962 in Union, Union County, SC)

2) Gene Carroll Harris, Jr. (DOB 9/1/1943 in Bryson City, Swain County, NC; DOD 7/30/2014 in Union, Union County, SC) married Cheryl Grady (DOB 5/5/1948 in Whitmire, Union County, SC; DOD 2/2/2012 in Union, Union County, SC). They had 1) Gene Carroll Harris, III (living) married Lisa A. White. 2) Michael Lewis Harris (living) married Wendy Lawson. 3) Rebecca Michelle Harris (living) married Shannon Austin (DOB 3/13/1971 in ? ; DOD 12/27/2016 in Union County, SC). 4) Mark Anthony Harris (living) married Erica.

3) Richard Wayne Harris, Sr. (DOB 5/18/1947 in Brevard, Transylvania County, NC; DOD 1/26/2015 in Union, Union County, SC) married Janet Josephine Clark (living).

4) Linda June Harris (DOB 1949 in Union, Union County, SC; living) married Joe Ed Littlejohn, Sr. (living). They had 1) Joe Ed Littlejohn, Jr. (living) married Susan (living) and they had Carmen Tricy Littlejohn. 2) Thomas Paige Littlejohn (living). 3) Allison Vernell Littlejohn (living) married Tom Routon (living). They had Anna June Routon and Christopher Cody Routon.



Alice Treecy Holden Harris died 12/31/1954 in Una community of Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC. She was outside hanging out clothes and died suddenly. She was only 38 years old. Her eldest daughter, Alice, would have been 13 yrs old. Gene Harris, Jr. would have been 9 yrs old. Richard Wayne Harris would have been 7 yrs old and Linda June Harris would have been 5 yrs old.

Findagrave.com
Alice Holden Harris
Birth: Jan. 7, 1916, USA
Death: Dec. 31, 1954, USA
Family links:
Spouse: Gene C. Harris (1914 - 1963)
Burial: Wesley Chapel Cemetery, Union, Union County, South Carolina, USA
Created by: LindaLou
Record added: Mar 12, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 34718316

Gene C. Harris died 6/12/1963 in Philadelphia, PA at the age of 44 yrs old. His children were young. Alice would have been about 22 yrs old and she was married. According to his death certificate, she was the informant for the info on the death certificate. Gene Harris, Jr. would have been 22 yrs old. Richard Wayne Harris would have been 16 yrs old and Linda June Harris would have been 14 yrs old.

PA Death Certificate #0653516-63, Primary District #80, Registered #12108, Gene Harris, DOD 6/7/1963 in 250 N. 9th St, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, PA (at his residence)
Male, White, DOB 8/22/1914 in SC, 48 yrs old, Widowed, Spouse: Alice Harris
Occupation: Textile worker
SS# 251-07-****
Father: Boyd Harris
Mother: Ida May Harris
Informant: Alice Davis, Daughter
DOD 6/7/1963
Cause of death: Presumably natural disease
No Autopsy, natural death
Buried: 6/13/1963 in Rosemont Cemetery, Union County, SC


The obituary of Gene Carroll Harris, Sr., The Greenville News, Greenville, Greenville County, SC, 6/12/1963, Pg 6. "Gene C. Harris"
Union-Gene C. Harris, 49, of Philadelphia, Pa., died Friday at his home.
A native of Union County, he was son of the late Boyd and Ida Mae Shaw Harris.
Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. Faye H. Davis and Miss Linda Harris of Union; two sons, Gene Carroll Harris, Jr. of Brevard, N.C., and Richard Wayne Harris of Waynesville, N.C.; a sister, Mrs. Bernice Warren of Chesnee, and two brothers, Minor Harris of Greenville and Leo Harris of Philadelphia.
Funeral services will be conducted Thursday at 2:30 p.m. at S.R. Holcombe Funeral Home will be in Wesley Chapel Mathodist Church Cemetery. Pallbearers will be nephews.
The body is at the funeral home and the family is at the home of a daughter, Mrs. Faye Davis, 53 3rd St., Ottaray.

If you have any further information or corrections, please contact me at Mom25dogs@gmail.com.

Vallie Harris was born 3/16/1887 in Union County, SC to Joseph Oscar Harris (DOB 3/11/1859 in Union County, SC; DOD 4/4/1927 in Union County, SC) and Sarah "Sallie" Jane ? (DOB 10/29/1866 in SC; DOD 4/30/1904 in Union County, SC).

Joseph Oscar Harris was the son of James Marion Harris (1834-1865) and Sarah Ann Bevil (1835-1889). James Marion Harris was an older brother to Stan's 2 Great Grandfather, Gamewell Calhoun Harris. Vallie Harris would have been Stan's 2nd cousin two times removed so it's a distant relationship.

Vallie Harris' name was also spelled Vellie Harris, Valeria Harris, Valorie Harris. Her father, Joseph Oscar Harris was married twice. He was married to Nancy "Nannie" Jane Mitchell (DOB 4/7/1970 in SC; DOD 8/9/1916 in SC). They had 9 children: Ola Permelia Harris, Ernest Marion "Huck" Harris, Ella Harris, Bernice Harris, William Jennings Bryan Harris, Pearl Harris, Joseph Oscar Teague Harris Jr., Lula Bell "Babe" Harris, Iris Virginia Harris. He married Sarah "Sallie" Jane ? and they had 5 children: Edward Washington Harris, Annie McCain Harris, Vallie Harris, James Wallace Harris, Mahala Harris.

1900 U.S. Census of Enumeration District : 0072; Columbia Ward 4, Richland County, South Carolina; Roll: 1540; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 0092; FHL microfilm: 1241540, Description: Pinckney Township (pt), That part of Township south of public road leading from Jonesville by Kelley's and Bentley's to Calvert's store, thence to Pinckney ferry by Union road, Family #294, Lines 95-100, "Joseph C. Harris" (sic)
Joseph C. Harris, Head, W(hite), M(ale), Born Mar, 1859, 41 yrs old, Widowed, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farmer, Can read and write
Jamie Harris, Son, W, M, Born Jan, 1882, 17 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farm laborer
Edward Harris, Son, W, M, Born Apr, 1884, 16 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farm laborer
Cellie Harris (sic, Vellie or Vallie Harris), Daughter, W, F, Born Mar, 1887, 13 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, At School
William Roberts, Hired, W, M, Born Jul, 1863, 36 yrs old, Widowed, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farm laborer
Guilford Foster, Hired, B(lack), M, Born Sept, 1886, 13 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farm laborer

I could not find her or her family in the 1910 U.S. Census. She married Walter Taylor Marsh about 1911 in Union County, SC. Walter Taylor Marsh was born Abt 1869 in SC to Malcolm Marsh and Sarah Martin.

1870 U.S. Census of Fourth, Richland County, South Carolina; Roll: M593_1507; Page: 273B; Image: 341672; Family History Library Film: 553006, Lines 32-37, "Malcom Marsh" (sic)
Malcom Marsh, 45 yrs old (DOB 1825), M(ale), W(hite), Farmer, $0 Real Estate Value, $300 Personal Estate Value, Born in SC
Sariah Marsh, 45 yrs old (DOB 1825), F, W, Keeping house, Born in SC, Cannot read or write
Jesse Marsh, 15 yrs old (DOB 1855), M, W, Farm laborer, Born in SC, Cannot read or write
Henry Marsh, 11 yrs old (DOB 1859), M, W, Farm laborer, Born in SC
Martha Marsh, 7 yrs old (DOB 1863), F, W, Farm laborer, Born in SC
Walker Marsh, 3 yrs old (DOB 1867), M, W, At home, Born in SC

1880 U.S. Census of Center, Richland, South Carolina; Roll: 1238; Family History Film: 1255238; Page: 173A; Enumeration District: 158, Lines 8-13, "Malcomb Marsh" (sic)
Malcomb Marsh, W(hite), M(ale), 45 yrs old (DOB 1835), Father, Married, Farmer, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC
Sarah Marsh, W, F, 50 yrs old (DOB 1830), Wife, Married, Keeping house, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Jessie Marsh, W,M, 26 yrs old (DOB 1854), Son, Single, Farmer, Born in SC, Father born in NC, Mother born in SC
Walter Taylor Marsh, W, M, 12 yrs old (DOB 1868), Son, Single, Born in SC, Father born in NC, Mother born in SC
Pat Derricks, W, M, 27 yrs old (DOB 1853), Son-in-law, Married, Married within the year, Farm laborer, Born in Ireland, Both parents born in Ireland
Martha Louisa Derricks, W, F, 18 yrs old (DOB 1862), Daughter, Married, Married within the year, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC


Walter Taylor Marsh first married Alice Ophelia Dowie. She was born 12/7/1869 in SC to Robert J. Dowie and Emma Martin. They had 4 children:

1) Archie McCraney Marsh (DOB 12/23/1887 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 3/1/1965 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married to Azilee Esther Odom (DOB 4/15/1895 in SC; DOD 2/1970 in Columbia, Richland County, SC). They had 4 children:

.....1) Edna Catherine Marsh (DOB 2/28/1915 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 5/6/1989 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married ? Felts.

.....2) Ruby Mae Marsh (DOB 9/23/1917 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 4/25/2003 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married George Woodrow Stoudemire, Sr.

.....3) Leonard Odom Marsh (DOB 1/11/1922 in SC; DOD 4/23/2011 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married Margaret Louise Harrington.

.....4) Earle McCranny Marsh (DOB 8/25/1926 in SC; DOD 10/31/2005 in Leesville, Lexington County, SC) married Margaret R.

2) Dr. Walter Talley Marsh (DOB 5/25/1889 in SC; DOD 8/7/1929 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married Ella Virginia Radcliff (DOB 11/10/1892 in SC; DOD 3/21/1968 in West Columbia, Lexington County, SC). Dr. Walter Talley Marsh was killed when he he got his car stuck in some sand. He and his family got out, another car approached at a high rate of speed and Dr. Marsh tried to flag it down but was hit and penned between his car and the other car, basically crushing his lower body and he died of shock. They had 5 children:

.....1) Virginia Caroline Marsh (DOB 11/26/1913 in SC; DOD 7/1979 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married George Andrew Smyser (DOB 4/21/1946 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 12/18/2014 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) and 2nd Ervin Sylvester Ketner (DOB 1867 in ? ; DOD 11/21/1925 in Richland County, SC).

.....2) Dorothy Aileen Marsh (DOB 6/17/1916 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 5/9/2003 in ? ) married ? Holton and ? Coates.

.....3) Walter Talley Marsh (DOB Abt 1921 in SC; DOD 3/31/1938 in Orangeburg County, SC). He was only 16 yrs old but had an accident with his bicycle and the wound became infected and went into his blood stream and he died of cardiac failure from streptococcus blood infection.

.....4) Calvert Marsh (DOB 1925 in SC; living) married ?

.....5) Marion William Marsh (DOB 8/8/1927 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 2/13/1993 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married ?

3) Margaret "Maggie" L. Marsh (DOB 6/1890 in SC; DOD 6/21/1920 in Richland County, SC) married John David Walling (DOB 4/10/1881 in SC; DOD 6/10/1944 in Richland County, SC).  Maggie Marsh Walling died of post partum hemorrhage after childbirth. They had one son: Walter David Walling (DOB 6/21/1920 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 1/14/1991 in Columbia, Richland County, SC).

4) Caroline "Carrie" Marsh (DOB 8/16/1892 in SC; DOD 5/1975 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married James Marion Broome (DOB 9/16/1894 in Blythewood, Richland County, SC; DOD 2/3/1949 in Columbia, Richland County, SC). They had 1 child: Ophelia Broome (DOB 11/28/1917 in Columbia, Richland County, SC; DOD 1/10/1999 in ? ).


1900 U.S. Census of Columbia Ward 4, Richland, South Carolina; Roll: 1540; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 0092; FHL microfilm: 1241540, Lines 10-15, "Taylor W. Marsh"
Taylor W. Marsh, Head, W(hite), M(ale), Born Nov, 1869, 30 yrs old, Married 14 yrs (DOM 1886), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Police, Can read and write, Rents home
Phelia Marsh, Wife, W, F, Born Sept, 1869, 30 yrs old, Married 14 yrs, 4 children with 4 still living, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Can read and write
Archie Marsh, Son, W, M, Born Dec, 1887, 12 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC Talley Marsh, Son, W, M, Born May, 1889, 11 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC Maggie Marsh, Daughter, W, F, Born Jun, 1890, 9 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Carrie Marsh, Daughter, W, F, Born Dec, 1982, 7 yr sold, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

Alice Ophelia Dowie Marsh died 8/30/1901 in Union County, SC. She is buried in the Kelly Cemetery, Columbia, Richland County, SC.

Obituary of Alice Ophelia Dowie Marsh
Death of Mrs. Marsh
The Young Wife of an Officer Passes Away
At 1:25 o'clock yesterday morning, after an illness extending over the greater part of two months, Mrs. Ophelia Marsh, wife of Police Officer W.T. Marsh, died at her home on Lumber Street. She was quite a young woman being just 32 years of age. She leaves behind four motherless little ones. The deceased lady was a sister of Police Officer Dowie. The funeral services were held yesterday afternoon at St. Timothy's chapel, of which Mrs. Marsh was a faithful communicant and earnest church worker, being conducted by the Rev. Harold Thomas. The interment was in the Kelly burying ground about four miles from the city.
The pallbearers were Messrs D.B. Sloane, R.C. Nash, W.J. Wood, S.N. Long, C.W. Hedgepath and W.H. Clayton.

Findagrave.com
Alice Ophelia Dowie Marsh
Birth: Dec. 7, 1869
Death: Aug. 30, 1901
Family links: Spouse: Walter Taylor Marsh (1869 - 1941)
Burial: Kelly Cemetery, Columbia, Richland County, South Carolina, USA
Created by: Dean
Record added: May 14, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 37096973

1910 U.S. Census of Militia District 5, Chatham, Georgia; Roll: T624_178; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 0079; FHL microfilm: 1374191, Lines 33-34, "Fred A. Lightbody"
Fred A. Lightbody, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 24 yrs old, Single, Born in GA, Father born in Scotland, Mother born in Ireland, Cafe clerk in cafe, Can read and write, Rents home
Walter Marsh, Boarder, M(ale), W(hite), 41 yrs old (DOB 1869), Widowed, Born in SC, Father born in NC, Mother born in SC, Town policeman, Can read and write

Walter T. Marsh married Vallie Harris.

1920 U.S. Census of Trenholm Road, School District 4, Richland County, South Carolina; Roll: T625_1707; Page: 34B; Enumeration District: 98; Image: 1001, Lines 88-89, "Walter T. Marsh"
Walter T. Marsh, Head, Owns home with mortgage, M(ale), W(hite), 49 yrs old (DOB 1871), Married, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Policeman rural
Valeria Marsh, Wife, F, W, 32 yrs old (DOB 1888), Married, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

1930 U.S. Census of Olympia, Richland County, South Carolina; Roll: 2209; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0041; Image: 915.0; FHL microfilm: 2341943, Lines 7-9, "Taylor Marsh"
Taylor Marsh, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 60 yrs old (DOB 1870), Married at age 18 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Farmer
Vallie Marsh, Wife, F, W, 41 yrs old (DOB 1889), Married at age 24 yrs old (DOM 1911), Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents bonr in SC
Walter Marsh, Son, M, W, 9 yrs old (DOB 1921), Attends school, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC (This is Walter Talley Marsh son of Dr. Walter Talley Marsh and Ella Virginia Radcliff and he died in 1938.)

I couldn't find them in the 1940 U.S. Census.

Walter T. Marsh died 9/3/1941 in White Rock, Richland County, SC.
SC Death Certificate #14944, Registration District #3802, Walter Taylor Marsh, DOD 9/3/1941 in White Rock, Richland County, SC
Male, White, Widowed (sic ? ), DOB (blank) in Richland County, SC, 72 yrs old (DOB 1869)
Occupation: Retired
Father: Malcolm Marsh, born in Richland County, SC
Mother: Sarah, born in (blank)
Informant: A. McC. Marsh (brother), Columbia, SC
DOD 9/3/1941
Cause of death: Laryngeal diptheria
Buried: 9/4/1941 in Columbia, SC

Vallie Harris Marsh married her half sister's widower, David Usra Alman. David was born 4/1/1890 in SC and he married 1st Ola Permelia Harris (DOB 1/15/1893 in Union County, SC; DOD 1/25/1944 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC). Ola Parmelia Harris was the daughter of Joseph Oscar Harris and Nancy "Nannie" Jane Mitchell while Vallie Harris was the daughter of Joseph Oscar and Sarah "Sallie" Jane ? . Ola and Vallie had the same father but different mothers. Ola and David U. Allman had 4 children: Bernice Lucille Allman, Maggie Evelyn Allman, Joseph Everette Allman, Meredith Elizabeth Allman.

Anyway, Vallie married David U. Alman in 1944. She died on 7/27/1958 in Monarch, Union County, SC (at home).
SC Death Certificate #58-013723, Registration District #4107, Registrar's #139, Vellie Harris Alman, DOD 7/27/1958 in Monarch, Union County, SC
Female, White, Married to D.U. Alman, DOB 3/16/1887 in Union County, SC, 71 yrs old
Father: J.O. Harris, Mother: Sallie Harris, Informant: D.U. Alman, Monarch, SC
DOD 7/27/1958 at 5:00pm
Cause of death: Carcinoma of pancreas
Buried: 7/28/1958 in Foster Chapel Church, Union County, SC

Obituary of Vallie Harris Marsh Allman, The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 7/28/1958, Pg 12
Mrs. D.U. Alman
Union-Mrs. Vallie Harris Marsh Alman, 71, died Sunday at 12:05 a.m. at her home on Rt 5, Union, after an illness of five months.
Born in Union County, she was a daughter of the late J.O. and Sallie Harris. Mrs. Alman was twice married, her first husband being the late W.T. Marsh of Columbia. In 1944 she was married to D.U. Alman of Union. Mrs. Alman was a member of Mon-Aetna Baptist Church.
Surviving besides her husband, are two step-daughters, Mrs. Bernice Cooper of Pelzer and Mrs. Meredith Fortner of Charleston; one step-son, Everett Alman of Clinton; four half-sisters, Mrs. John Bentley of Rt 4, Union, Mrs. Fant Faucette of Union, Mrs. Perno Heade of Union and Mrs. Jack Parris of Spartanburg; and two half-brothers, Ernest Harris of Escondido, Calif., and Joe Harris of Rt. 4, Union.
Funeral Services will be conducted at 5 p.m. Monday at Mon-Aetna Baptist Church by the Rev. John G. Hicks and the Rev. J.C. Lowe. Burial will be in Foster's Chapel Methodist Church Cemetery.
Nephews will be pallbearers.
Honorary escort will be members of the Men's Bible Class of Mon-Aetna Baptist Church.
The body is at the home on Rt 5, Union, where it will remain until 4 p.m. Monday when it will be taken to the church.
S.R. Holcombe Funeral Home is in charge.

David Usra Alman died 9/23/1961 in Pelzer, Anderson County, SC.

Obituary of D.U. Allman, The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 12/24/1961, Pg 34
D.U. Allman
Pelzer-D.U. Allman, 71, of Union, died Saturday at 10:20 p.m. at the home of his daughter, Mrs. O.C. Cooper of Pelzer.
Funeral arrangements will be announced by Holcombe Funeral Home of Union.


Wallace T. Marsh was a policeman and I found some interesting newspaper articles that mention him.

The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 4/27/1913, Pg 1 and Pg 3, "Famous Yeggman Makes Escape From Governor's Office"
Made Getaway While Officers Waied For Him In Anteroom
"Portland Ned" Gains Liberty
Noted Crook and Burglar was in Private Office of Governor Blease, Having Been Granted Parole Friday-Executive Left Office for a Few Moments, and on His Return Found Man Had Disappeared-Mystery Surrounds Affair.
(By Joe Sparks)
Columbia, April 26-While Richland county deputies acting as United States marshals waited in the anteroom to serve warrants, James Johnson, known as "Portland Ned," one of the most desperate yeggmen (a person who breaks open safes, a burglar) in the country, escaped from the private office of the governor of South Carolina today at noon. Johnson was paroled yesterday by the governor, but was held pending word from United States post office inspectors. This morning Johnson, upon order of the governor was carried to the State house for a conference with the governor. The governor left his private office to give some information to newspaper correspondents, leaving Johnson in the private office. When the governor returned it was found that the yeggman had walked through a door into the hallway and to liberty.
R. Beverley Sloan, United States commissioner here notified the Columbia police and the search for the prisoner was begun. "Portland Ned" is wanted by the postal authorities on several charges and it was the intention of the marshals to make the arrest this afternoon.
"Portland Ned" was convicted in Spartanburg county in 1911 on the charge of house breaking and larceny and was sentenced to serve 10 years in the State penitentiary. He was convicted following the completion of a 7 year term in the federal prison at Atlanta. The two terms were given for blowing the safe of the Enoree Manufacturing company in Spartanburg county when $10,000 was secured. The federal term was given for stealing some stamps from the post office at the same time.
R. Beverley Sloan, United States commissioner made the following statement: "Capt. Sondley telephoned me today from the penitentiary that the governor had requested that James Johnson be sent to his office. I immediately communicated with the sheriff's office and deputized H. S. Hipp, to serve the bench warrant as the sheriff was out of town. I instructed Mr. Hipp to go at once to the penitentiary and accompany the prisoner to the governor's office. He took a Mr. Hellams along with him to assist him. Mr. Hipp says that they went to the governor's office along with Mr. Robbins from the penitentiary who had the prisoner in charge. I am informed that upon arriving at the governor's office the governor forbade Mr. Hipp to serve the warrant and ordered him out of his office. As to the truth of this I can not say. The governor's private secretary telephoned to me and I at once went to the governor's office, taking with me a warrant sworn out by H.T. Gregory, post office inspector and in company with Deputy Marshall Senn. I was informed, and was shown telegrams the governor had from Judge H.A.M. Smith, United States Marshall J. Duncan Adams, District Attorney Cochran, substantially to the effect that there were no other charges against James Johnson. In justice to Gove. Blease I will say that these telegrams were in response to other telegrams he sent these parties before the parole was granted. When I arrived at the governor's office I immediately sent in to him the warrant which Inspector Gregory had sworn out. At this time I understand that the governor was in conference with James Johnson in his office. I could not get access to him. Immediately I sent Mr. Cochran the following telegram: "Have warrant sworn out for James Johnson by Gregory on 26th February, 1913. Wire governor at once." I then turned the two warrants over to Mr. Senn and instructed him to wait at the governor's office until Johnson came out. I came back to my office and called Mr. Cochran up over the telephone. He informed me that  he had wired the governor to please detain Johnson. But I am sure that the governor did not receive this telegram until after the prisoner escaped. My recollection is that at the time I was talking to Cochran over the telephone Mr. Senn came to my office and told me the prisoner had escaped. He stated that he was in the governor's anteroom and the governor came out of his private office to speak to a lady. The governor then went back into his private office and immediately returned to the anteroom and stated that Johnson had walked out of the door in his private office leading into the hall of the state house and could not be found. I called up the governor's office and verified Mr. Senn's report as to the fact that Johnson had escaped. I at once communicated with the Columbia police department and requested them to use every endeavor to apprehend Johnson. In addition I deputized W.T. Marsh a constable of this city, who know Johnson personally to serve the warrant.
"Portland Ned" has a national reputation as a crook of superlative daring. Detective Reed said that he took the criminal as the man for whom he alleged he endeavored to buy a pardon because he was the most dangerous man in the state penitentiary. The man of many aliases was convicted, chiefly through the efforts of Post Office Inspector Greogry, of robbing the post office in Enoree, in Spartanburg county, and he served seven years in the federal prison in Atlanta. When he was released he was turned over the South Carolina authorities, and he was tried in the circuit courts, convicted and given 10 years in the state penitentiary.
"Portland Ned" gained additional notoriety during the sessions of the dispensary investigation committee held in Augusta last summer. It was there that Detective Reed gave his sensational "dictagraph proof" of a conversation with Sam J. Nicholls, of Spartanburg. The conversation referring to the getting of a pardon for the prisoner, or Johnson, was held in Spartanburg. It was stated that Nicholls agreed to act as associate council in the endeavor to get a pardon for Johnson. Detective Reed stated that he represented himself as a Chicago lawyer and wanted to get Johnson freed because he was heir to a large estate in Chicago.

You can Google "James Johnson 'Portland Ned'" and find more articles on his illustrious criminal career. Here are a few more I found.






The Watchman and Southron, Sumter, SC, 11/22/1913, Pg 6, "Posse Shoots Negro"
Negro Chased By Hounds To Cane Brake On River-Armed With Pistol and Shotgun
Columbia, Nov 19-Edward Winbush, the negro who shot at Sheriff J.C. McCain, of Richland county last Monday night, was killed by a posse yesterday about 2 o'clock in a cane brake on Broad River near Frost, a station on the Southern railway. Winbush is said to have been in the act of shooting a member of the posse when he was cut down. His body was pierced by 17 bullets. The negro was about 26 years old and is reported to have borne a bad reputation. Winbush was armed with a pistol at the time he was killed and had shotgun shells in his pocket.
Last Monday night Sheriff McCain was riding on a Colonial Heights car when Winbush fired a pistol into the air. The sheriff ordered him to give up his gun and intended to place him under arrest. The negro, however got off the car and fired through a window at Mr. McCain. The sheriff chased Winbush, but he made his escape after the shooting Monday night.
Early Tuesday morning W.T. Marsh and J.N. Helms, rural policemen went to Winbush's house at 2114 Sumter street to arrest him. The negro ran out of the back door. It is said that he threatened to shoot Mr. McKinnon, who is employed at the Confederate infirmary.
Sheriff McCain telephoned to the penitentiary for bloodhounds, which were put on the negro's trail. He summoned a number of deputies and gave chase. The negro was finally cornered about 400 yards from Frost station on the Southern railway, in a cane brake on the bank of Broad River after he had been trailed for several hours. It is thought that he failed in an effort to get a bateau to take him across the river.
Members of the posse say that the negro started shooting as soon as he saw that he was surrounded.

The Newberry Weekly Herald, Newberry, SC, 8/22/1919, Pg 2, "Negro Chauffeurs Held For Murder"
Coroner's Jury Clears Killing of James Goodwin
The State, 19th
The jury investigating the death of James Goodwin returned a verdict last night to the effect, "that he came to his death by being knocked from his cart and being knocked from his cart and being run over by automobiles driven by Robert King and Pink Williams." The jury recommended that King and Williams be held for murder.
Rural Officers George Weston and W.T. Marsh testified before the jury that Pink Williams, negro chauffeur, had made an open statement in which he declared that he and Robert King were traveling over the Garner's Ferry road and that King overtook him and passed by. King struck a cart as he cut to the right. King was confronted with William's statement and he admitted the truth of the confession.
Williams and King were arrested by the rural officers after Ernest McDaniel, negro employed at the Capital City Garage, had said King bought gasoline on the night of the collision to take a car in Shandon. Williams offered to tell the truth and the officers heard his statement. After the two rural policeman had testified King and Williams said they had repeated the statement they gave.
Mr. Daniel testified that King came to the garage at about 1:00 o'clock Saturday morning, August 9 in a Buick car. He saw King when he pulled it upward. McDaniel said he spoke to King saying, "you done hit something." King did not reply and left the scene.
The jury was composed of R.B. Davis, C.T. Senn, R.N. Wood, R.V. Stiller, Mark Taylor, and J.P. Palmer.

The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 10/19/1922, Pg 6, "Richland Officer Held Blameless In Shooting"
Columbia, SC, Oct 18-Rural Policeman W.T. Marsh acted in discharge of his duty when he fatally shot Roy Gibson, negro, at Lykesland Sunday, according to the verdict of the coroner's jury which tonight held an inquest. Gibson was shot after he had fired at the officer from a freight car, in which he had taken refuge after firing at Andrew Patterson, supervisor-elect of Richland county.

The Gaffney Ledger, Gaffney, SC, 4/29/1926, Pg 6, "Aged Wayfarer Is Attacked By Negro"
Ship Designer Cut And Robbed
Captain Samuel Golden, 71, Hiking from Miami to Buffalo, N.Y., is Victim of Assailant
Columbia, April 27-Hiking back from Florida to his home in Buffalo, N.Y., Capt. Samuel Golden, 71 years of age, a designer of ships, was attacked and severely cut about the face, head and neck, by Tom Cherry, a negro, late yesterday afternoon, 16 miles from Columbia near Messers mill, on the old Camden road. Cherry was captured after he had attempted to get away, by Chief of Rural Police J.d. Dunaway and was brought to the county jail. He gave full confession of the attack and explained robbery as his motive. Captain Golden was taken to the Columbia hospital, where 60 stitches or more were required to close his wounds. Captain Golden was cut by a double edge safety razor blade.
The Negro, when interviewed last night, gave virtually the same explanation of the affair as Captain Golden.
It seems, from the account given by the two, that the negro had struck up with the aged captain early yesterday afternoon, about 12:30 or 1 o'clock, near Columbia, at the entrance into Lakeview. A few casual remarks were passed between the two as the old man walked toward Camden. Captain Golden was a bit uneasy, he said, but the negro displayed no vicious traits, and walked behind him a short way. Near the eight mile post on the road, the negro and the captain were overtaken by a wagon driven by Jess Koon, a white man. They rode with him to within a short distance of Messers mill, where Mr. Koon turned off the main road to go to his home. The old man and the negro dismounted and started walking down the the road. Captain Golden remarked to the negro, that he thought at the next house where he could be given lodging, he would stop for the night. Shortly thereafter the attack took place after the aged captain had remarked to the negro about his persistent following him.
The negro said, and the the captain corroborated, that he first struck Captain Golden over the head with a stick, snatched a double edged safety razor blade from his own pocket, as the old man forced the stick from him, and commenced the cutting. A wound extending from the left back of the captain's neck around to the right side o the throat, completely around the back of the neck, was made. Another long gash was made across the head, another across the face, and several wounds across each other were made on the face and head.
As deeply and severely wounded as he was, Captain Golden reached into his pocket, got his knife and opened it as he fell, to fight back at the negro. The negro grabbed the captain's hand-bag and ran out through the woods by the side o the road.
Bleeding, staggering and faint, the aged man managed to get to the home of Henry Dinkins, a half mile from the scene, where Mrs. Dinkins rendered what aid she could and set for help. R.R. Seeley traveled from there talked to Chief J.D. Dunaway of the rural police in the sheriff's office.
Stands Stitches Gamely
Chief Dunaway, accompanied by Dr. G.M.S. Roof, made a rapid trip to the home of Mr. Dinkins, where the old man lay wounded, and without the aid of any anesthetic, Captain Golden stood gamely while Dr. Roof took more than 30 stitches to close the wounds which were gradually bleeding himself to death.
Chief Dunaway and Dr. Roof were followed closely by Sheriff T. Alex Heise of Richland county, and the following rural policemen: J.E. Fralick, W.T. Marsh, A.H. Eleazer, E.V. Neeley, and A.B. Price, special officers J.W. Taylor and A.O. McKinnon, and Motorcycle Policeman James Crossland of Cayce. In the party were carried two bloodhounds, the property of J.G. Bickley.
It was on the return trip of Chief J.D. Dunaway and Dr. Roof, who were hurrying Captain Golden to the Columbia hospital, that Tom Cherry was captured, about seven miles below Columbia on the old Camden road. The negro had come back into the road only a short distance from where he was captured, after heading back toward Columbia through the woods. Chief Dunaway saw Cherry, and about the same time Cherry saw the chief, and attempted to crouch in a ditch alongside the road. Chief Dunaway, bringing the car to a stop, threw his gun on the Negro while Dr. Roof supported the officer with a rifle. Cherry was instantly and unhesitatingly identified by Captain Golden as the man who attacked him.
In the meanwhile, other officers on the chase, had been following the bloodhounds which had trailed the Negro into the woods and had located the captain's hand-bag, slashed open by a sharp instrument. Part of the contents had been removed and scattered further along. In a cigar box which was in the handbag were several small articles. The negro said when he procured the cigar box he thought he had located the captain's money box and so abandoned the handbag.
Cherry was brought into custody by Chief Dunaway and Dr. Roof, who were on their way to the hospital. Later the chief returned to the scene and the negro was positively identified by Jess Koon as the man who had ridden on the wagon with Captain Golden.
To make doubly certain they had the right man, officers had noticed a peculiar sort of track near where the hand=bag was found and the negro's shoes were examined. The track made indicated that the shoe had a kind of cleat extending the full way across the sole. Such a cleat had made tracks in the soft, moist earth, and had caused the dirt to be kicked up where those cleats protruded. The negro was found to be wearing shoes that would make such a track.
Negro Confesses
Cherry confessed to Sheriff Heise, Chief Dunaway, J.E. Fraylick, A.H. Eleazer and E.V. Neeley, before the party left the scene of the attack. He told a reporter last night that robbery had been his motive from the time he first met up with Captain Golden.
Sheriff Heise said last night that Tom Cherry, who has an alias of Tom Richardson, had served one term of 18 months on the Richland county chaingang and one term of 18 months on the Lexington chaingang. Both terms were the result of convictions of some sort of robbery or attempt at robbery. Cherry, who is about 25 years old, said that his home was in Columbia, at 401 Sumter Street. Until recently, the negro said, he had been employed by the Congaree Fertilizer company.
Captain Golden had about $16 in cash which the negro overlooked in his haste to get away. The negro overlooked in his haste to get away. The negro declared that he thought he had killed Captain Golden. Cherry is being held in the Richland county jail on charges of assault and battery with intent ot kill and highway robbery.
Captain Golden's home is in Buffalo, N.Y., at 386 Fourteenth Street. He had been in Miami, Fla. since September, 1924, and was leisurely making his way back to his home. Since being in Florida he has been engaged in shipbuilding, his life work, he said at the hospital last night.
When seen at the hospital, he was in a most cheerful mood, with apprehension only for the worry the affair might cause his family. He requested Sheriff Heise to send a telegram to Mrs. Golden telling her of the trouble but also telling her he was not injured badly, was in perfect condition and would write her a letter today in his own hand. With pardonable pride the real "ancient mariner" told the reporter last night of his success and failures in shipbuilding. He is especially proud o the Poughkeepsie, a ferry boat which plies the Hudson River. It is his own design, he said, except for few alterations which he claimed only served "to make her awkward".

The Gaffney Ledger, Gaffney, SC, 12/2/1926, Pg 12, "Find Second Still Of Enormous Size"
Near Where First Was Destroyed
"Twin Sister" Close to Columbia Apparently Produced Liquor in Wholesale Quantities
Columbia, Nov 30-No further developments following the discovery of two huge stills in the Congaree Swamp of Richland county could be announced last night, although officers continued to work on the case.
With the return of the raiding party of county officers led by Sheriff T. Alex Heise to Columbia yesterday morning about 5 o'clock, it became known that Sunday night they had discovered and completely wrecked an enormous liquor plant about four miles south of Adams pond and about one and one half miles below the spot on which had been found early Sunday morning by federal officers one of the largest plants ever captured in South Carolina. Thus within the space of a day the swamps of the Congaree yielding two huge distilleries, aptly characterized as "twin sisters" because of their almost identical size.
Situated alike, constructed along almost identical lines, with similar equipment, within one and one-half miles of each other, the two enormous plants, according to records discovered, had delivered themselves of thousands of gallons of whiskey.
Sunday night the party led by Sheriff Heise and consisting of J.D. Dunaway, chief of rural police; W.T. Marsh, J.R. Crossland, E.V. Neeley, and A.H. Eleazer, rural policemen, entered the deep swamps and upon information procured Friday, discovered the huge "twin sister" of the distillery captured before dawn Sunday by three federal prohibition officers led by Glenna D. McKnight of Berkeley county.
With the still captured by Richland officers were found 65 vats containing 32,500 gallons of mash or beer. In the equipment were found 130 feet of copper tubing forming the worm or coil of the plant. Steam for the operation was furnished by a 12 horsepower, coke burning, steam engine topped off by a 25 foot smoke stack. A gasoline motor forced water from the nearby creek into the still. The piping system was elaborately constructed and virtually all of the equipment was new. The value of the still was estimated by Sheriff Heise at $7,500.
Chart Found
As in the still found by federal officers, the county officers found a chart of the operation of this outfit showing it to have been in operation only about 11 days, during which time runs of liquor were made ranging from 175 gallons to 615 gallons daily. Due to the similarity in size, construction and location, both stills are believed to have been under the direction of the same person or persons.
When seen yesterday morning the still presented a scene of total wreckage. Richland officers did their work well in destroying the plant. So enormous was the outfit and so well constructed that the officers with aid of six negroes and two white men labored for hours before the destruction was complete. Spilled out into the lowland and marsh of the deep swamp the 32,500 gallons of mash floated away over the ground forming a frothy shallow lake in the vicinity of the plant.
A truck was required to make several loads in bringing to the Richland county jail, various pieces of equipment such as the boiler, pump, copper worm and the like.
Situated like it's wrecked twin the still occupied a quarter acre on a small peninsula jutting out into the creek and marsh of the dismal Congaree Swamp. Several roads leading toward the plant gave evidence of being traveled to some extent and converged just before reaching the still, to form one passageway into the narrow neck o the swamp peninsula. Buried deep in the heavy growth of the swamp lands the plant was well concealed and could not be seen until it burst into view on rounding a sharp rough curve of the road. Cooking and eating utensils were found and also some wearing apparel. Thirty five 100-pound sacks of sugar, several bags of corn and rice meal, 36 cases of fruit jars and other similar accessories were found.
None At Still
No one was found at the still although the raid had been planned with a hope of finding the plant in operation. But as the officers reached the scene nothing but the vast silence of the swamp greeted them. The still had not apparently been operated at all Sunday.
With the discovery of one plant near 3 o'clock Sunday morning and the capture of another about 8 o'clock Sunday night, within the space of several hours, what are believed to be two of the largest and most elaborately equipped distilling plants ever captured in South Carolina were brought down. Equipment and supplies o the two stills reached an aggregate estimated value of $17,500. A total of 67,500 gallons of mash or beer was dumped into the swamp. Both stills were evidently under efficient business management as the records disclosed a complete record of operations.
It was first presumed, judging from the records found at the plant destroyed by federal officers, that this outfit had been in operation for eight months but yesterday it developed that four months age a still was raided and wrecked on the identical spot on which the federal officers made their discovery. It is now believed that the records revealed operations of a previous still on that site as well as the one which was destroyed.
Federal officers at the still captured Sunday morning also captured one negro. This plant was not in operation and no whiskey was found.
No one was arrested nor was any whiskey found at the plant wrecked by county officers.